Pittsburgh Penguins Prospects Thread
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I assume that means "moved to another KHL team"
Whatever he needs to do to become the next Shesterkin or Vasilevsky, do it.
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6'4 200lbs and "hard to play against"
That's what you want to hear. Looks like his skating will need to improve but for a 7th round pick, nice to see some good words on him.
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The good thing about young guys like that is he can improve it. When they get older (forget cutoff) they are what they are.
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Corey Pronman of the Athletic has begun his annual NHL Pipeline Rankings. A player is eligible for his rankings if they are 22 years old or younger to start training camp. It includes players who have graduated to the NHL.
Penguins are 29th.
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Yager is No. 1, Pickering No. 2. They are the only ones projected to be impact players (top six/top four). The rest, including Poulin, Blomqvist and Broz, are all "have a chance to play in the NHL" caliber.
Penguins are 29th.
Corey Pronman's NHL Pipeline Rankings: No. 29 Penguins still sitting near the bottom
Ranking the top prospects and under-23 players in the organization. Plus, what to expect of every player.
theathletic.com
Yager is No. 1, Pickering No. 2. They are the only ones projected to be impact players (top six/top four). The rest, including Poulin, Blomqvist and Broz, are all "have a chance to play in the NHL" caliber.
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Shocked. Absolutely shocked. This shakes me to my core.Corey Pronman of the Athletic has begun his annual NHL Pipeline Rankings. A player is eligible for his rankings if they are 22 years old or younger to start training camp. It includes players who have graduated to the NHL.
Penguins are 29th.
Corey Pronman's NHL Pipeline Rankings: No. 29 Penguins still sitting near the bottom
Ranking the top prospects and under-23 players in the organization. Plus, what to expect of every player.
Yager is No. 1, Pickering No. 2. They are the only ones projected to be impact players (top six/top four). The rest, including Poulin, Blomqvist and Broz, are all "have a chance to play in the NHL" caliber.
Gurglesons
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Corey was on the Athletic podcast.Corey Pronman of the Athletic has begun his annual NHL Pipeline Rankings. A player is eligible for his rankings if they are 22 years old or younger to start training camp. It includes players who have graduated to the NHL.
Penguins are 29th.
Corey Pronman's NHL Pipeline Rankings: No. 29 Penguins still sitting near the bottom
Ranking the top prospects and under-23 players in the organization. Plus, what to expect of every player.
Yager is No. 1, Pickering No. 2. They are the only ones projected to be impact players (top six/top four). The rest, including Poulin, Blomqvist and Broz, are all "have a chance to play in the NHL" caliber.Y
He said Pickering and Yager aren't elite players. But Pickering has a really good chance of being a top four defenseman and Yager has a really good chance of being a top six forward.
Says he is fascinated by our organization. Is confused by the direction. Interested to see us at the deadline.
Mentioned "can Yager be a center". Window is very short. Says its two years. Corey said Pickering is great. Very reasonable that Pickering is in the NHL not this season, but next season. Do we get impatient and move him?
I don't think Dubas is going to move either unless something he can't say no to turns up. Anything else apart, given how capped out this team is, there's going to be a fairly short list of places he can spend enough assets to make giving up Pickering make sense (but the counterpoint there is that small list of places will be quite expensive, so...).
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I wonder if the thought is to see how POJ and Smith do this season while giving Pickering a heavy load in WBS.
If POJ and/or Smith fall flat, you move on and give Pickering a shot on the bottom pair next year behind Graves/Petts. If one of them really clicks - say POJ puts it all together and is a solid two-way defenseman - perhaps you explore moving Petts in his final year so you can spend his cap hit elsewhere.
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Pickering still has one more year in Juniors before he can go to the AHL
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Gurglesons
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I feel like if given the chance, Poulin could do something next year. Not sure I'd say "stud", but 15 goals 15 assists.
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Randy Butternubs
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Way too lofty of "expected" totals for him.
In his "good" AHL half season (January 2022 to May 2022) he only scored 30 points in 51 games. Using NHL Equivalency for an 82 games that equates to just 19 points in the NHL. If we use his entire AHL career it drops to just 15 points.
Yeah yeah, we can expect him to improve. But improve at 1.5-2 times as much production? That's outlandish to me.
Gurglesons
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Maybe. Depends how they use him. I'm obviously a little biased on the player though.
Randy Butternubs
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I'm definitely pessimistic on Poulin's potential offensive production. Mostly because he was stapled to the WBS Top 6 and Top PP and barely produced.
However, I do think there's at least a 4th liner there.
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Empoleon8771
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That could also be due to who he was playing with. He was a rookie that was spending a lot of time with Legare IIRC, and their leading scorer was Puustinen with 42 points in 73 games.
I don't think it's a safe bet that he can become that 15-15 guy, but I don't necessarily think that his rookie year production in the AHL is a reason for that. I think it's more about him missing a year of development last year and being a total wildcard to see what he could be going forward. But the talent in WBS now is substantially better than it was in 2021-2022, so I think we'll just have to wait and see.
Randy Butternubs
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That's certainly part of it. The added talent to WBS should help out the younger guys.
Legare was almost exclusively bottom six in WBS. Poulin was Top 6 and often on the Top PP.
Empoleon8771
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Interesting, for some reason I thought that they were really running with Poulin at C and Legare on RW in Poulin's rookie year. Or at least the lineups I saw when I would randomly pay attention to a WBS game had Poulin and Legare together.
You've watched and followed WBS far more than I have though so you're likely right here.
Randy Butternubs
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There were definitely a few games where the lineups showed them as linemates but not that many.
Let me ask that lineup guru on Twitter.
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Freeptop
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I know I am. Pronman rated the Pens several spots higher than I expected!
Randy Butternubs
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Nah: LinesLinesLines
He says there were no instances last season where Poulin and Legare were linemates. Though I'm sure there were a few instances in their first AHL season.
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