Proposal: PIT - STL

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Joel Edmundson



Calen Addison
Olli Maatta


Addison has elite potential and Maatta can somewhat replace Edmundson. PIT upgrades on Maatta.

Click to read more...

 

[bleedblue1223]

Does Maatta suck now or am I missing something?

 

[Starat327]

Does Maatta suck now or am I missing something?

The former.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Does Maatta suck now or am I missing something?

He doesn't suck, but his skating isn't ideal for our system. Defensively speaking he's solid.

 

[bleedblue1223]

He doesn't suck, but his skating isn't ideal for our system. Defensively speaking he's solid.

Then why are you also sending a prospect that you say has elite potential. I imagine he's similar to how Dunn was as a prospect.

 

[TheBluePenguin]

Blues have no toughness if we trade Eddy

 

[BleedBlue14]

He doesn't suck, but his skating isn't ideal for our system. Defensively speaking he's solid.

Eddy isn't necessarily a great skater either. He's not terrible by any means but I wouldn't describe him as an above average skater.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Then why are you also sending a prospect that you say has elite potential. I imagine he's similar to how Dunn was as a prospect.

Because I really want Edmundson. Unless you guys don't mind a lesser prospect then I'd be good with that too.

 

[dwright5314]

Not a terrible offer, Blues brought Edmundson to arbitration this year anyway so who knows if he's in their future plans anyway

 

[bleedblue1223]

Because I really want Edmundson. Unless you guys don't mind a lesser prospect then I'd be good with that too.

Fair enough.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Not a terrible offer, Blues brought Edmundson to arbitration this year anyway so who knows if he's in their future plans anyway

That's just because Army is dumb and wanted Maroon.

 

[dwright5314]

That's just because Army is dumb and wanted Maroon.

Maroon's goal scoring numbers aren't looking like ideal one-year prove it deal numbers.

 

[BlueDream]

I don't think Edmundson would really be any better than Maatta for you guys tbh. He's kinda slow too.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Eddy isn't necessarily a great skater either. He's not terrible by any means but I wouldn't describe him as an above average skater.

He looked pretty decent to me. He's average which is good enough.

 

[MissouriMook]

I feel like if a deal goes down between these two teams it would be something bigger. Something along the lines of Kessel + Maatta for Parayko and Steen/Schwartz.

 

[SEALBound]

Pens say no. If they are including Addison, its for a larger fish.

 

[simon IC]

Sorry, we are too soft as it is. We need Edmundson. Hard pass from this Blues fan.

 

[CapnZin]

Joel Edmundson



Calen Addison
Olli Maatta


Addison has elite potential and Maatta can somewhat replace Edmundson. PIT upgrades on Maatta.

Potential is a very slippery slope. Anyone can say anyone has “elite” potential. Addison doesn’t have elite potential, but he’s a good prospect. Not a blue chip or an A, but at most an A- if he does well.

A lot compared him to Kimmo Timmonen, with one exception; his defense is absolutely horrible. 2-way play is expected, so the elite potential is not necessarily correct.

Maatta isn’t very good, but this deal favors the Blues by a smaller margin. You
Could probably sneak a 2nd or 3rd in there too from them.

 

[Darren McCord]

Joel Edmundson



Calen Addison
Olli Maatta


Addison has elite potential and Maatta can somewhat replace Edmundson. PIT upgrades on Maatta.

Terrible for Pittsburgh

But I like Addison and think he could be a Schultz replacement.

 

[DatDude44]

Value wise I don’t hate this for the blues. I’m a big Addison fan. But Edmundson is too important and the only real consistent physical presence that doesn’t play 4th line or 3rd pair

 

[67Blues]

Without Eddy, the Blues defense would have to resort to hitting the forwards with their purses as they pass on by.

 

[PensandCaps]

Not even slightly interested.

Maatta+ for Edmundson is fine..but he wouldn't fit that well here either.


Not giving up Addison, our only good PMD prospect for a minimal upgrade.

 

[Colt55]

I feel like if a deal goes down between these two teams it would be something bigger. Something along the lines of Kessel + Maatta for Parayko and Steen/Schwartz.

So parayko and Schwartz for kessel and Matt's. Lol. That's really bad

 

[Peat]

He looked pretty decent to me. He's average which is good enough.

Not if you're trading away a guy like Addison it isn't.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't even think I'd add on top of Maatta for Edmundson in the first place, let alone add Addison. Maatta has become crazily underrated on this site. He's a 2-way #4 defenseman, he's an extremely well rounded defenseman that is just a bad skater. He may get burned every so often due to his skating, but his overall results (especially his GA stats) are still very good despite his skating. He's a cerebral defenseman that is very effective at a lot of things both offensively and defensively, his skating just sucks.

There are reasons to look to move him, but those reasons aren't that he's a bad player. Those reasons deal mostly with him making $4.083 million on a team that already pays way too much for their LD and him not fitting the system well due to his skating. I'd love to trade Maatta for a lesser RHD that fits the system better and has similar strengths to Maatta, something like Maatta for Pysyk would make sense for the Penguins to look at.