Pick a duo for 5 years - Gretzky/Hasek or Lemieux/Orr

[bobholly39]

You can pick each player at any point in their careers. And you get them for 5 straight years. Has to be 5 straight years. So for Lemieux for example - you can't pick 1989, skip 1990, pick 1991, etc. If you pick him in 1989, you get him from 1988-1989 to 1992-1993.

Who do you pick and why?

Take injuries and health into consideration.

If you want to get specific - you can chose to have them play in any era you like. But if you want to just pick in general/in a vacuum rather than for a specific era, that's fine too.

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[AdamParrot]

Gretzky 1981-1986 (best player in the NHL history in his best seasons)
Hašek 1994-1999 (best years from anyone goalie in the NHL history)

Unreal.

 

[Albatros]

Hasek + any of the other three.

 

[mattihp]

Lemieux Orr.

With that foundation you can win with Osgood in net.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Gretzky 1981-1986 (best player in the NHL history in his best seasons)
Hašek 1994-1999 (best years from anyone goalie in the NHL history)

Unreal.

What this guy said.

Also goalies spend more time on the ice, thus have a greater impact and Gretzky could make a traffic cone a 50pts player.

 

[amnesiac]

Mario 88-89 to 92-93
Orr 70-71 to 74-75

 

[JackSlater]

I'd take Orr and Lemieux. Health wise clearly Gretzky and Hasek are a safer bet, though I'm not sure that a team can be built around both Gretzky an Hasek and still get the best out of each of them. Regardless I take Lemieux and Orr though because it would be so incredibly interesting and fun to watch while still giving you an overwhelming favourite in the playoffs if Lemieux is fairly healthy.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Yeah I'm going Gretzky + Hasek 10/10

 

[Habs10025]

Lemieux/Orr.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Lemieux/Orr for me

 

[KevinRedkey]

Mario 87-88 to 92-93
Orr 69-70 to 74-75

Mario 87-93: 666 points
Orr 70-75: 614 points

Gretzky from 81-86: 1036 points

All Gretzky needs is a guy who puts up 49 points per year to beat out the other duo offensively. Gretzky can make pretty much anyone put up those numbers.. and they have Hasek in goal.

I picked Gretzky and Hasek because of th 5yr stretch thing. If it was their 5 best years, then I'd take Mario/Orr

 

[al secord]

If Lemieux wins the opening faceoff, Gretzky doesn't get a sniff of the puck.

I stand by my decision not to read the OP.

 

[roflstomper]

I voted as if I got them in today's NHL. Went with Orr and Lemieux. Goalies by and large are all decent nowadays and you can win the Cup with a vast majority of them.

 

[oXo Cube]

Lots of replies didn't read the OP in here. Lemieux is the clear weak link in a sample of 5 year cut outs.

 

[Sheppy]

Orr from 69-70 to 74-75 is freakish.

GP: 447
G: 214
A: 520
PTS: 734
+/-: 480

 

[newfy]

If its 5 best years, picking and choosing it would be hard not to pick Mario/Orr. But with it being 5 straight years I think this is fairly comfortably (not necessarily easily) Gretzky and Hasek. Its hard to compare goalies but Haseks best 5 year run is just about as dominant as anyones not named Gretzky

 

[bobholly39]

Mario 87-88 to 92-93
Orr 69-70 to 74-75

technically - that's 6 seasons each. Probably remove the first from each set.

Mario 87-93: 666 points
Orr 70-75: 614 points

Gretzky from 81-86: 1036 points

All Gretzky needs is a guy who puts up 49 points per year to beat out the other duo offensively. Gretzky can make pretty much anyone put up those numbers.. and they have Hasek in goal.

I picked Gretzky and Hasek because of th 5yr stretch thing. If it was their 5 best years, then I'd take Mario/Orr

Lots of replies didn't read the OP in here. Lemieux is the clear weak link in a sample of 5 year cut outs.

You're both right that Mario is the weak link in terms of health. He doesn't have 5 consecutive full seasons at a high level.

BUT - it also depends how you look at it. What's your goal here? To have the best regular seasons ever, and potentially break single-season records? I assume the goal is more in relation to the cup. And for Lemieux - if you go 89 to 93 stretch of 5 seasons - it's true that you won't get 5 full seasons from him, absolutely. But he played in every playoffs - and despite probably not being at 100% health-wise for most of those playoffs, he still managed 2 of the best playoff performances of all-time (and i say that in a thread that includes Gretzky and Orr). In 1989 playoffs - lack of team success, but 12 goals in 11 games is stupid good. 1990 they didn't qualify - 1993 he likely suffered a bit more from health.

All that to say - if your goal is to win the cup - you may not get Mario 100% healthy for all the regular season games in all 5 seasons - but if you do enough to make the playoffs and if he can play in top shape in the playoffs - is peak Lemieux/Orr better than Hasek/Gretzky?

Come the playoffs - would you rather have the duo of Lemieux/Orr generating office, or Gretzky and that guy he plays with who can score 49 points in a season?

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Gretzky/Hasek by a country mile AINEC.

 

[JoVel]

Gretzky > Lemieux but Orr dominated his peers like no other player in NHL history. I gotta go with them.

 

[amnesiac]

Mario 87-93: 666 points
Orr 70-75: 614 points

Gretzky from 81-86: 1036 points

All Gretzky needs is a guy who puts up 49 points per year to beat out the other duo offensively. Gretzky can make pretty much anyone put up those numbers.. and they have Hasek in goal.

I picked Gretzky and Hasek because of th 5yr stretch thing. If it was their 5 best years, then I'd take Mario/Orr

and how many MORE points would Mario AND Orr have playing with each other? A lot more than the 49 point difference I can assure you that.... Mario gets 220+, Orr gets 140+ a season.

thats how you have to see it.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If this is players on the ice and not just numbers on paper, I believe Orr would make Mario a better overall player.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

I don't think there's a more dominant duo than Mario/Orr.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I’d take Lemieux/Orr all day long.

Those two guys on the same team would be GG’s for the opposition.

While Hasek was phenomenal, you can win with a lesser goalie and Orr/Lemieux would control the game.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

It's easily Gretzky and Hasek. Lemieux is such a weak link here.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Lemieux+Orr would compound their strengths making each other even better. You don't get that with Gretzky+Hasek.