Phoenix XXVI: Pain in the AZ
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Hilarious, the 2 guys interviewing come across as complete morons. I love the respone to Darcy O when she said, Glendale is already in deep deep debt and there is no guarantee that after spending another 100 million that the team doesn't still leave in another couple years, and were left with even deeper debt and the same situation. Remember this is a team that lost 40million the last 2 years and has never made money. Interviewers response, well at least we should try, and new management things might be different.
berklon
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Hell, if the NHL believes in the market so much - what's the rush to sell the team? The NHL should hang onto it for another year or two. And since Bettman and the BOG can do no wrong, then it would make them great owners and they'd turn this franchise around financially.
Sweatergate.
Pretty funny !
Anyhow, here is Clint Bolick's response to a fan's email regarding it.
"I own that sweatshirt because I happen to be a fan of the Coyotes."
http://www.fiveforhowling.com/2011/3/9/2038589/talking-with-the-goldwater-institutes-clint-bolick
Pretty funny !
Anyhow, here is Clint Bolick's response to a fan's email regarding it.
"I own that sweatshirt because I happen to be a fan of the Coyotes."
http://www.fiveforhowling.com/2011/3/9/2038589/talking-with-the-goldwater-institutes-clint-bolick
Killion
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Clint. Clint Bolick. Attorney with the Goldwater. Gadfly & Bon Vivant. Looks like he may be in charge of Fundraising as well; targeting the large & lucrative market in Winnipeg.
Actually, I heard the original posting featured Our Man Clint in a Jets Jersey, but he yanked it as perhaps going just a tad too far. Either way, and I really could care less, what is he doing joining a Jets Facebook page in light of the sensitivity amongst his own kit & kin in Arizona besides looking for a new source of donations?.
That is EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD what any reasonable person might say to the GWI in response to their 75 statements that "it seems like it may possibly be that there is a chance that subject to further review the deal might possibly be illegal ... maybe ..."
While, as i have said, my approach would have been to distrust GWI from the start and obtain a declaratory order, I am admittedly in tough when it comes time to engage in the fine art of political equations. Assessing leverage and negotiation points in large commercial transactions is completely different than figuring out political calculus (partly because there is often such a disconnect between what is supposed to be the goal - public service) and the actual goals and motivations of the players (re-election, self-monument building, etc.). That being said, two things come to mind as to why they do not want to:
1. The optics of suing a self-professed taxpayer group is terrible. Even if they are nothing short of political hacks themselves, the CoG councillors and mayor would be handing their political opponents juicy political raw meat by doing so.
2. IF they do sue, it will be because one of two things have happened - (1) MH and the NHL have abandoned the deal, in which case CoG are out hundreds of millions, or (2) they have sold the bonds at a premium interest rate, in which case CoG are only out $50-100 M or so.
It puzzles me why so many would think it is so easy for CoG to jump joyfully into either of those unpalatable options, particularly since GWI is not going to be good for the damages on either of those suits. Yet there are those who would suggest that, at this point in time, the CoG would do it if only they felt better about their case.
They feel fine about their case. It is the crap sandwiches with a glass of crap cola and a side order of crap chips they have to eat, both politically and commercially, if they choose either door (although they do have several ways to mitigate the impact of a bond issuance at a higher price if they were to go that way).
If I were them at THIS point (putting aside what I might have done earlier), I would be leaning hard on Moyes to do something to get them turned around, so that he can have a chance to recoup some of the remaining monies from the bankrupt estate. I imagine moyes still has an interest in snatching back the millions still in there.
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Clint. Clint Bolick. Attorney with the Goldwater. Gadfly & Bon Vivant. Looks like he may be in charge of Fundraising as well; targeting the large & lucrative market in Winnipeg.
Actually, I heard the original posting featured Our Man Clint in a Jets Jersey, but he yanked it as perhaps going just a tad too far. Either way, and I really could care less, what is he doing joining a Jets Facebook page in light of the sensitivity amongst his own kit & kin in Arizona besides looking for a new source of donations?.
Man what have we become that we need to follow the internet habits of some attorney working for GWI to try and dig up some dirt.
CoG needs to piss or get off the pot so we can move on to the next 30 threads dedicated to the Atlanta Thrashers.
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Admittedly the best answer there was, well, when they leave in two years the CoG will recoup its $100M through the ~$250M in LD's that will have to be paid before Hulsizer would get a nickel in the proceeds of any sale on his part.Hilarious, the 2 guys interviewing come across as complete morons. I love the respone to Darcy O when she said, Glendale is already in deep deep debt and there is no guarantee that after spending another 100 million that the team doesn't still leave in another couple years, and were left with even deeper debt and the same situation. Remember this is a team that lost 40million the last 2 years and has never made money. Interviewers response, well at least we should try, and new management things might be different.
Are any of these potential owners in a position to pay 210M + transfer fees ? The NHL needs to squeeze every penny they can out of TNSE right now. Negotiations will take a bit of time. And if something in the meantime changes in Glendale, then these negotiations can be terminated. I'd be surprised if any other buyers were in the mix right now.
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Are you sure you can handle this game with me? Based on past experience I would say not. Can you make a post which talks only in fact and isn't a derogatory jab at someone? Olsen is an moron. Sitren is a moron. Shoalts is a moron. Lawless is a moron. Winnipeggers are mostly morons. Experts are morons. This is getting old. Funny thing about most of these people, that have it so wrong, are in elite positions. I have no idea how any of this passes here.
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The funny thing that GWI says is when the parking is brought into topic. Why doesn't Hullsizer pay the whole price and get revenue from parking?
I find this so funny. The parking joke is simply a way the COG could make an excuse for giving Hullsizer money. No intelligent business man would ever think that charging for parking at jobing.com arena would be a smart venture or a way to offset losses from the Coyotes.
This won't go to court because the GWI will simply point out the same prospective losses the COG will.
COG will point out lost taxes from Westgate.
The GWI will point out management fees, bonds. Not just for 5 years but for a lot longer than that.
I find this so funny. The parking joke is simply a way the COG could make an excuse for giving Hullsizer money. No intelligent business man would ever think that charging for parking at jobing.com arena would be a smart venture or a way to offset losses from the Coyotes.
This won't go to court because the GWI will simply point out the same prospective losses the COG will.
COG will point out lost taxes from Westgate.
The GWI will point out management fees, bonds. Not just for 5 years but for a lot longer than that.
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Nice hit job on Ms. Olsen's accomplishments. She's "never held a real job"? You know what, if that's true and she's making a decent living, maybe that is a real accomplishment -- just another way to look at it.
You always seem to come down on the side that supports position X and opposes position Y, regardless of the actual point in consideration. One might assume that occasionally the position you are apparently opposed to might have a point going for it now and then, but you almost never seem to see that way. Now if you would admit your bias that would be fine. To my knowledge you haven't done that though.
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Clint. Clint Bolick. Attorney with the Goldwater. Gadfly & Bon Vivant. Looks like he may be in charge of Fundraising as well; targeting the large & lucrative market in Winnipeg.
Actually, I heard the original posting featured Our Man Clint in a Jets Jersey, but he yanked it as perhaps going just a tad too far. Either way, and I really could care less, what is he doing joining a Jets Facebook page in light of the sensitivity amongst his own kit & kin in Arizona besides looking for a new source of donations?.
Please show the picture if it existed Coyote fans would have it everywhere. See post 979 which talks about the coyote sweater that has people talking. The page was in support of Goldwater and yes they would prefer the team went North than have the taxpayers pay for it. Have Hulsizer pay the 170 million and Goldwater will back off.
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this was an interesting statement by bollick:
The law firms who were asked to analyze the deal were given a set of facts by the City, including the assumption that the team owned the parking rights. I would not have expected those firms to dig beneath what the City told them. Our job is to do just that.
so the law firms just assumed glendale doesnt own the parking rights? ....sounds fishy to me
The law firms who were asked to analyze the deal were given a set of facts by the City, including the assumption that the team owned the parking rights. I would not have expected those firms to dig beneath what the City told them. Our job is to do just that.
so the law firms just assumed glendale doesnt own the parking rights? ....sounds fishy to me
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