Confirmed with Link: Peter Chiarelli [Gregor: Presser Tomorrow? Ward: Staffing Update Come Morning]

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[mactforcoach]

This is different though. The others that they hired without interviewing others were former Oilers who were gifted positions out of loyalty and Eakins who had no NHL resume to speak of.

Chiarelli even with his warts is a proven commodity, as successful as you'll find on the open market. I'm sure he would be offered other opportunities if the Oilers don't snag him now.
There's something to be said for doing due diligence but when you have an opportunity to get one of the better GMs on the market, go get him.


I don't disagree that Chiarelli is good hockey man but I just don't want to see the Oilers bring him in tomorrow, give him the keys, then watch him trade 2 or 3 of the young core for "tougher, Bruins like" players.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This is different though. The others that they hired without interviewing others were former Oilers who were gifted positions out of loyalty and Eakins who had no NHL resume to speak of.

Chiarelli even with his warts is a proven commodity, as successful as you'll find on the open market. I'm sure he would be offered other opportunities if the Oilers don't snag him now.
There's something to be said for doing due diligence but when you have an opportunity to get one of the better GMs on the market, go get him.


I don't disagree that Chiarelli is good hockey man but I just don't want to see the Oilers bring him in tomorrow, give him the keys, then watch him trade 2 or 3 of the young core for "tougher, Bruins like" players.

That's not going to happen. Besides, there aren't better options available and with Toronto on a GM hunt of their own it would be wise to strike while the iron is hot.

 

[I am the Liquor]

This is different though. The others that they hired without interviewing others were former Oilers who were gifted positions out of loyalty and Eakins who had no NHL resume to speak of.

Chiarelli even with his warts is a proven commodity, as successful as you'll find on the open market. I'm sure he would be offered other opportunities if the Oilers don't snag him now.
There's something to be said for doing due diligence but when you have an opportunity to get one of the better GMs on the market, go get him.


I don't disagree that Chiarelli is good hockey man but I just don't want to see the Oilers bring him in tomorrow, give him the keys, then watch him trade 2 or 3 of the young core for "tougher, Bruins like" players.

Whatever he does, it would be an improvement over what we have had to endure for the last decade.

 

[joestevens29]

This is different though. The others that they hired without interviewing others were former Oilers who were gifted positions out of loyalty and Eakins who had no NHL resume to speak of.

Chiarelli even with his warts is a proven commodity, as successful as you'll find on the open market. I'm sure he would be offered other opportunities if the Oilers don't snag him now.
There's something to be said for doing due diligence but when you have an opportunity to get one of the better GMs on the market, go get him.


I don't disagree that Chiarelli is good hockey man but I just don't want to see the Oilers bring him in tomorrow, give him the keys, then watch him trade 2 or 3 of the young core for "tougher, Bruins like" players.

So instead we should continue to play with a crappy d and crappy goaltending. Someone has to come in and make changes. Hate to say it but people are going to be mad regardless. Someone has to go before this team has a legit shot at going anywhere in this league.

 

[OilerFan4Life]

To the guy saying hiring Chiarelli is a mistake because he's the first person we're interviewing....


Please provide us a list of other GMs who are available and have won a Stanley Cup in the last decade?

Lombardi ain't leaving Los Angeles.
Holland ain't leaving Detroit.
Bowman ain't leaving Chicago.


Ridiculous that posters on this board will complain about Chiarelli. Guys like this are rarely available to be hired. When they are, you pounce on them immediately.

 

[CupofOil]

I don't disagree that Chiarelli is good hockey man but I just don't want to see the Oilers bring him in tomorrow, give him the keys, then watch him trade 2 or 3 of the young core for "tougher, Bruins like" players.

Honestly though, would trading some of the core for tougher more experienced players be the worst thing in the world?
The problem with Tambo and MacT is that they were/are too attached to the core and are unwilling to part with anything of value to support the core properly.

I wouldn't be adverse to Eberle, Yak and/or Draisaitl being dealt for players that fill bigger needs although I prefer to hold onto Drai for the time being. At some point this is going to have to be done IMO.
Not enough team toughness as is and there's no guarantee that Nurse and/or Klefbom become the top pairing Dman we need and if one of them does, it might take years.
The core is flawed. They can't be scared to pull the trigger on a trade for the sake of keeping the core together, a core that has driven them to the basement for the last several years.

 

[NewBoysClub97*]

Not liking a guy like Chia is like beggars being choosers

 

[oXo Cube]

I would pose the same question that got buried in the last thread to the 'wait and interview multiple people' crowd.

Who are we waiting for? Rutherford?

PC might only be average as an actual GM, but he is the best name out there in regards to bringing a history of success and instant credibility to the Edmonton Oilers, and we need that kind of image makeover in the worst way imaginable.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I would pose the same question that got buried in the last thread to the 'wait and interview multiple people' crowd.

Who are we waiting for? Rutherford?

PC might only be average as an actual GM, but he is the best name out there in regards to bringing a history of success and instant credibility to the Edmonton Oilers, and we need that kind of image makeover in the worst way imaginable.

The only available GMs right now are Nonis and Shero. Don't want anything to do with the former and the latter isn't a better option than Chiarelli. No GMs of note are likely to be fired between now and the draft.

 

[Paralyzer]

To the guy saying hiring Chiarelli is a mistake because he's the first person we're interviewing....


Please provide us a list of other GMs who are available and have won a Stanley Cup in the last decade?

Lombardi ain't leaving Los Angeles.
Holland ain't leaving Detroit.
Bowman ain't leaving Chicago.


Ridiculous that posters on this board will complain about Chiarelli. Guys like this are rarely available to be hired. When they are, you pounce on them immediately.

It's ok. We can always sign Eakins as GM, make MacT the POHO and give Lowe Supreme Commander of all Oiler intel. Then Eakins can hire Mr. Bean as Head Coach and have the Three Stooges as the assistant coaches. That seems WAY more logical than going after Chiarelli.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Seguin is not that good. Take away Benn and you have an average player.

His tattoo on his arm is horrendous too.

 

[Matador]

Chiarelli trading one of the young core is being overblown. The current or next GM is going to have to swing a deal to aquire some defensive and goaltending help.

 

[KaiserYamamoto]

The Oilers cynic in me says Chiarelli is here only to leverage a better deal from another NHL club (like past UFAs).

Or worse, Nicholson is talking to other people to address due diligence concerns (like Lowe hiring MacT as GM), only to confirm Lowe, MacT and Howson are indeed the "right people".

Please, McJesus, let me be wrong.

 

[OilerFan4Life]

Not liking a guy like Chia is like beggars being choosers

100% agreed.

 

[OilerFan4Life]

Seguin is not that good. Take away Benn and you have an average player.

His tattoo on his arm is horrendous too.

Okay, now this is just crazy.

Seguin is an elite offensive player.

 

[OilerFan4Life]

The Oilers cynic in me says Chiarelli is here only to leverage a better deal from another NHL club (like past UFAs).

Or worse, Nicholson is talking to other people to address due diligence concerns (like Lowe hiring MacT as GM), only to confirm Lowe, MacT and Howson are indeed the "right people".

Please, McJesus, let me be wrong.

Dude is unemployed. What better job is out there?

What available GM wouldn't want this job? I think we as a fanbase need to stop being cynical. This is an attractive job.

this is a VERY attractive job.

He'd be taking over a team with McDavid and Nurse having 3 cheap ELC years left....a core of Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, and Yakupov....a state-of-the-art arena opening in one season.

 

[Trollmark*]

Mr. Bean as Head Coach and have the Three Stooges as the assistant coaches.

Feels like we have already been through this for the past many years...

 

[Smartguy]

Chiarelli trading one of the young core is being overblown. The current or next GM is going to have to swing a deal to aquire some defensive and goaltending help.

Ya I don't believe that this is a bad thing, were not going to win with an all skill top 6. We need that size and role players as well as defense and goaltending to have moderate success. Any gm no matter who it if not this year, in the next will realise we need to trade some of our core peices to fill holes in the roster. Unless you want it mact's way where we sit and have "devolpmental" years, which means we suck for the next decade to draft these players to fill the holes

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

people can't possibly dislike this if he comes here

guy has Stanley Cup pedigree...he know what it takes to win a Cup

I hope he comes in and becomes the boss of MacT...cause once he sees how awful he is, he'll punt him..(probably in some other capacity...like getting coffee for the big boys, it's the Oiler way)

 

[OilerFan4Life]

Ya I don't believe that this is a bad thing, were not going to win with an all skill top 6. We need that size and role players as well as defense and goaltending to have moderate success. Any gm no matter who it if not this year, in the next will realise we need to trade some of our core peices to fill holes in the roster. Unless you want it mact's way where we sit and have "devolpmental" years, which means we suck for the next decade to draft these players to fill the holes

Completely agree.

Oilers fans have to get comfortable with the possibility of Hall or Eberle being moved.

 

[Trollmark*]

people can't possibly dislike this if he comes here

guy has Stanley Cup pedigree...he know what it takes to win a Cup

I hope he comes in and becomes the boss of MacT...cause once he sees how awful he is, he'll punt him..(probably in some other capacity...like getting coffee for the big boys, it's the Oiler way)

Ya... Just one.

 

[Akonite]

Completely agree.

Oilers fans have to get comfortable with the possibility of Hall or Eberle being moved.

Having McDavid makes that much more palatable.

 

[Dorian2]

Since we got that gold ticket, I'm a lot more comfortable as a fan trading pieces that I wouldn't have traded before.

That's all I'll say on that.

 

[OilerFan4Life]

Having McDavid makes that much more palatable.

Agree.

I don't even like Milan Lucic but it would be stupid not to at least consider a Lucic for Eberle trade.