TSN: Pens waive DeSmith, Keep Jarry

[EightyOne]

 

[Shockmaster]

No mention of this on the Penguins' twitter account yet.

 

[HandshakeLine]

That’s dumb. DeSmith is demonstrably better and Jarry’s upside is nothing special.

Jarry’s biggest advantage is cap hit right now.

But I think it’s silly to give as much of a shit about either of them as people do around ‘ere all of a sudden.

 

[StaalForOne]

Yea, I'm not about to lose sleep over this. I was never that high on CDS, and I don't think the difference between him and Jarry is that big of a difference.

Ideally I'd take on a backup that's maybe a little overpaid, but better than CDS and Jarry. JJ and one of Jarry/CDS for an established backup would work for me.

Allen, Raanta/Kuemper, Condon, Khudobin, Bernier, Nilsson to name a few off the top of my head.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

 

[The Old Master]

Of a player that is useful to the team? If that's the case they should have waived JJ

you'll get no argument from me. but i'm not jr

 

[Shockmaster]

This media silence from anyone associated with the Penguins or covering them since before DeSmith was waived is really odd.

 

[RSPens]

What I don't understand is that if this was the move they were going to make, why didn't they do it when they sent the bulk of the other players down. It is much easier to clear waivers when there a bunch of players on waivers at the same time. Oh well, I guess they were still hopeful to get a trade done before today and obviously that's not happening. I still would like to see JJ on waivers next, but for some reason this team is giving him way too much leash.

 

[Shockmaster]

What I don't understand is that if this was the move they were going to make, why didn't they do it when they sent the bulk of the other players down. It is much easier to clear waivers when there a bunch of players on waivers at the same time. Oh well, I guess they were still hopeful to get a trade done before today and obviously that's not happening. I still would like to see JJ on waivers next, but for some reason this team is giving him way too much leash.

There's still a pretty good chance DeSmith clears waivers. And even if he doesn't, losing him isn't worth getting worked up over.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I mean... that more or less debunks any JJ trade rumors at least for a while, yes?

 

[brewski420]

I have my doubts there was ever any potential trades that involved JJ.

 

[Jacob]

I have my doubts there was ever any potential trades that involved JJ.

I tend to agree. It’s almost like the rumor was floated as a last ditch effort to actually manufacture some interest? Like some GM dumb enough to change his mind about Johnson if you can convince him other teams are making offers.

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

One of the lesser talked about failures of Rutherford's time is his inability to find a back up. He was fortunate with Fleury/Murray. Zatkoff was internal and meh. Greiss was bad. Niemi was an abysmal failure. DeSmith and Jarry have been meh and internal from before him. Shero had faults but he was good at finding back ups for a reasonable price. Then again part of the issue with signing contracts like Johnson's and Tanev's is that you can't afford a better back up. It's all connected.

 

[madinsomniac]

There's still a pretty good chance DeSmith clears waivers. And even if he doesn't, losing him isn't worth getting worked up over.

Yeah Desmith is very overrated here... he was a borderline prospect that had a great year, but i mean watching him there really isn’t anything special and he does panic flop a lot more than we talk about here... I think they overstepped giving him that contract last year... I doubt that he is claimed, and if he is there seems to be backup goalies available all the time through the season if it comes to that.... i wish him well... don’t get me wrong, he is ok... just he isn’t a starter... and backups aren’t worth having to deal assets to get compliant

 

[HandshakeLine]

Remember when Gustavsson was the next hot thing and we were all mad he got traded? I just caught up on his stats and they're pretty... well... not good. I don't follow the AHL enough to know how Belleville is, but dude's posting an .827 IN THE ECHL.

Yikes.

 

[Freeptop]

This means the Pens don't have a goalie trade that they think they can complete before 5pm tomorrow, by which time they have to be down to 23 players on the roster and be cap compliant. In order to send someone down, they'd have to have already cleared waivers, so they had to put one of the goalies on waivers today.

Now, add in that they might not be certain they can complete a cap-clearing move before 5pm tomorrow, and they end up with a need to clear extra cap space as well.

Jarry is less likely to clear waivers, due to age, cap hit, and draft status (yes, draft status is silly to count here, because it shouldn't matter anymore after a few years of pro experience, but it still affects the way at least some GMs evaluate prospects). Combine that with DeSmith providing extra room under the cap, just in case, and it isn't surprising that they put DeSmith on waivers right now.

One thing to note: they'll only be cap compliant so long as Rust ends up on LTIR. Which means they'll need to make a cap-clearing move before he could come back. Realistically, that means they've got to have some sort of cap move they're working on right now, which will either get completed before 5pm tomorrow, or sometime before Rust is back from injury. They have no other choice. This waiver move just gives them a little bit more time, if they need it, in order to get a deal done.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I want the Pens to pick up Ho Sang. Also Jarry and Desmith were on par with each other in camp and preseason. Anyone paying any attention also read that JR felt they spent a lot of time and money in developing Jarry and were ok keeping all 3 up to find a solution.

Comrie was also rumoured to be dealt to the avs so the Pens are trying to sneak in a more expensive option and older one hoping the distraction of Comrie and Forsberg let's CDS slide thru.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I mean... that more or less debunks any JJ trade rumors at least for a while, yes?

Or at least the ones about us shopping a goalie and JJ as a package at least.

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

Sigh. I hope he clears.

 

[Shady Machine]

One of the lesser talked about failures of Rutherford's time is his inability to find a back up. He was fortunate with Fleury/Murray. Zatkoff was internal and meh. Greiss was bad. Niemi was an abysmal failure. DeSmith and Jarry have been meh and internal from before him. Shero had faults but he was good at finding back ups for a reasonable price. Then again part of the issue with signing contracts like Johnson's and Tanev's is that you can't afford a better back up. It's all connected.

Really? DeSmith was internal, but he has been pretty solid overall. Why should JR have gone chasing for a different back up when he had 2 internal options?

 

[TNT87]

 

[cvrle1]

I was always a fan of Ho-Sang, and would love if pens could somehow pluck him off wavers. Only thing is, he would have to switch his # as 66 is retired in Burgh haha.

 

[Riptide]

Wow..I guess no JJ trade...why haven’t they waived JJ?

I think it's more so a matter of Rutherford being able to point to the cap saying "I don't NEED to do this... I would just LIKE to do this" as a way to try and keep the deal to something he's comfortable with. CDS down and Jarry up allows him to do that.

That said, I'm surprised.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

What I don't understand is that if this was the move they were going to make, why didn't they do it when they sent the bulk of the other players down. It is much easier to clear waivers when there a bunch of players on waivers at the same time. Oh well, I guess they were still hopeful to get a trade done before today and obviously that's not happening. I still would like to see JJ on waivers next, but for some reason this team is giving him way too much leash.

They're....literally doing that right now while two other goalies are on waivers.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I was always a fan of Ho-Sang, and would love if pens could somehow pluck him off wavers. Only thing is, he would have to switch his # as 66 is retired in Burgh haha.

He switched his number a while ago.

I feel for the guy. He shouldn't have to take less money for money he earned and a contract he fought to earn.