We'll have to agree to disagree because I can't fathom how someone can just say the issues we have in losses is roster related when those issues don't seem to appear in most wins. The difference between the two is in wins the team seems to have the energy/jump to play that high pressure system, but in losses it doesn't have the legs, so the system fails without 100% buy-in.
But anyways, guess we'll be arguing about this for the next decade because Sullivan's going nowhere.
They do though. Look at our charts on most wins and you'll find that the Carter line has often still had a bad game, for example.We'll have to agree to disagree because I can't fathom how someone can just say the issues we have in losses is roster related when those issues don't seem to appear in most wins. The difference between the two is in wins the team seems to have the energy/jump to play that high pressure system, but in losses it doesn't have the legs, so the system fails without 100% buy-in.
But anyways, guess we'll be arguing about this for the next decade because Sullivan's going nowhere.
just put jake with geno, that will fix him.This is kind of why I'm up for trading Jake, tbh, if the return is good. He's been coasting, albeit with an uncanny ability to put up points, for a few seasons now and he's frankly just not looking good this year. Rust is even worse, but he's essentially immobile with the NMC. Heinen shouldn't be in the lineup; he should be waived and sent to WB/S.
I dunno about that. Prime Crosby, prime Malkin. Prime Staal. Prime Letang. A good top 4 d.It’s really the most frustrating part of the team. It’s Bylsma after 2013 all over again.
But even then Bylsma’s rosters were wayyyy worse than Sullivan’s.
As much as I agree with you, those 2 aren’t the sole reason we lost.Stop playing Brian Dumoulin and Jeff Carter.
When is the last time Marchand and Bergeron were on separate lines for an extended time? That's the combo you should be comparing Jake and Sid to.NHL Line Combinations - Boston Bruins
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weird how some teams can break up elite players and make it work, but we have to force Jake and Crosby every game.
guess that's the luxury when you have players like Jake Debrusk and Nick Foligno lol.
Yes, yes. A thousand times, yes.I just don't really agree with this. We're old, but we skate just fine. The reason we look like a buzz saw one night and shit the next is our bottom six is horrible. When our top six has an off night, we suck.
Like I said, I don't think it's a systems thing. I think it's a roster thing. Half of our lineup can't pick up the other half when they have a bad game.
It's also why even our wins feel like a struggle because even in those games usually only half of our lineup is going
When is the last time Marchand and Bergeron were on separate lines for an extended time? That's the combo you should be comparing Jake and Sid to.
Yes, yes. A thousand times, yes.
They do though. Look at our charts on most wins and you'll find that the Carter line has often still had a bad game, for example.
I focused on Carter's line because it's particularly egregious, but our entire bottom six aside from Josh Archibald is sporting xgoals percentages below 50%. In the case of Carter's line it's particularly egregious with Carter (40%), Kapanen (40%), Mcginn (41%). Then there's Heinen (46%), Blueger (47%), Poehling (48%), and Archibald (55%). The fourth line at least looks almost respectable but even they are south of 50%.Why are you only focusing on Carter's line? Sully's system breaks down when all four lines don't have their legs. It works when the majority of the team has their legs. Focusing on one line to prove it's not a system thing is a bit weird. That's like me saying our system didn't really work in 2016 because David Perron couldn't play it well, even though evidence (and the fact we won the Cup) suggests it actually did work for the team as a whole.
Sullivan's misuse of Carter and him struggling in wins because of that misuse doesn't negate the fact his system that the other 11 forwards struggle with when they don't have their legs is a flawed one.
I saw one of those videos once...HHOF is just a nepotism bukkake.
Can't wait to see Ty Smith tonight.
If you do see Smith be sure to ask what's good at the press box buffet tonight. He's got insight.
Barring a sudden pre-game injury to one of our six defensive All Stars, the only way Smith gets into the lineup is if Friedman is scratched, which considering Friedman was our best D out there vs. Detroit would be a Very Sully Thing to do.
Can't wait to see Ty Smith tonight.
I was assured that his injury woes were a thing of the past.Letang is hurt.
If you do see Smith be sure to ask what's good at the press box buffet tonight. He's got insight.
Barring a sudden pre-game injury to one of our six defensive All Stars, the only way Smith gets into the lineup is if Friedman is scratched, which considering Friedman was our best D out there vs. Detroit would be a Very Sully Thing to do.
I honestly think throwing him in this game is possibly the worst potential thing for him. Could see him getting absolutely abused.
I think you'd be right if he is coming in and eating Letang's minutes but I think he'll be on line 3 sheltered.
Plus you don't think he's juiced up to show the Devils something?
I hope so. In fact this means that Smith-Friedman could be our most effective pairing vs. NJD.
We should be lucky if he sees more than 7mins tonight.Can't wait to see Ty Smith tonight.
We should be lucky if he sees more than 7mins tonight.
I don’t even know if I want to watch the game tonight.
I focused on Carter's line because it's particularly egregious, but our entire bottom six aside from Josh Archibald is sporting xgoals percentages below 50%. In the case of Carter's line it's particularly egregious with Carter (40%), Kapanen (40%), Mcginn (41%). Then there's Heinen (46%), Blueger (47%), Poehling (48%), and Archibald (55%). The fourth line at least looks almost respectable but even they are south of 50%.
Meanwhile our top six is more than carrying their share with around 55% or higher for all of them.
That's why I don't think it's a system thing. Our bottom six is almost always bad and our top six is almost always good.
If you want to say xgoals is a flawed stat or dont like it or whatever we can also look at shot attempts (our bottom six is atrocious there, top six is good) or eye test (I think most would agree that the bottom six looks horrible by the eye test too)
And before anyone brings up deployments, let's just nip that one right in the bud. Deployments can affect these numbers in a negative way but there's zero excuse for the Carter line in particular to be that consistently bad. If they even got their numbers up to the mediocre 4th line level we'd be in a much better place.
Like when I look at our wins, our bottom six often sucks in those too. That's why every win feels like a struggle unless our top six pops off. It's a testament to how good our top six is that we're where we are at in the standings because our bottom six has to be one of the worst of any playoff team in the league.