GDT: | Pens vs Sabres | 1700hrs EST | Last one before the big dance

[Peat]

McGinn might honestly cost a 1st to get rid of in the current market. Similar contract as Dickenson, but 2 years left instead of 1. Both underwhelming bottom 6 players. This is why you don't give depth/role players more than 2 year deals.

Given Dickinson had half the points, that seems a bit bearish. I 100% believe McGinn is negative value right now, but not to that value.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Well he has to go within 30 days or 10 games..but if we send him there, we can bank the cap savings and call him up again after a couple months…sucks for the player but hes kind of redundant on this team..but he’s good depth

You don't get the cap space until he goes to the AHL.

And the Penguins will not be able to bank enough cap space to recall him. He would only be an option to recall if someone with a high enough cap hit is on LTIR.

 

[Andy99]

You don't get the cap space until he goes to the AHL.

And the Penguins will not be able to bank enough cap space to recall him. He would only be an option to recall if someone with a high enough cap hit is on LTIR.

it’s the Pens…that’s very likely to happen…but at least they start the season cap compliant…Poehling can easily replace him…it’s not like there’s a chance in hell this is happening anyway Lol

 

[BusinessGoose]

The pens f***ed up

There's no reason to lose cap to buyouts or more assets to gain cap. Just waive some guys. Lord knows no one they might lose in the process is pivotal.

 

[Gurglesons]

POJ just sounds dumb in this lol

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Please don't break up GCRak. Shades of last year.
Nice game from L2. As lopsided as the score was, the shots were 25-22 and the Sabres had the HDC edge 10-8. So it's good to see them ragging the puck like this.

L3... woof. I know Kap and Carter are friends off the ice, but I don't think Heinen's gonna be able to save them. If they can't have a strong game against that Buffalo lineup, how are they gonna find traction against proper teams? Other teams are gonna punish you if you play like this.
Just make Blue the 3C and Poehling 4C. It's time for Carter to move to the wing.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

No, but I think it pretty much sinks the thought that McGinn doesn't have negative value.

I remember when he was signed a lot of people were praising JR for replacing Tanev cheaper. I'd gladly pay 750k more to swap them. Tanev at least did stuff. McGinn might be the most vanilla player in our long line of forgettable bottom 6 plugs.

Glad I'm not the only one that isn't that high on the McGinn signing. In a lot of ways, McGinn's like watchin Spaling all over again.

 

[Gurglesons]

Rakell does a lot of nice work defensively compared to Rust on L1, he's always hanging high, but doesn't mind getting down in the corners too. I feel like when we watch GCR every shift is Rust and Guentzel trying to skate really hard back to catch a 3-2.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Rakell does a lot of nice work defensively compared to Rust on L1, he's always hanging high, but doesn't mind getting down in the corners too. I feel like when we watch GCR every shift is Rust and Guentzel trying to skate really hard back to catch a 3-2.

100%. I've been so impressed by Rakell defensively since he's come here. Hell, if we're unclear on who's the 4th PK'er then why not give him a go?

 

[Pens x]

It's a shame Rutherford boofed the team's cap that one season where Pettersson took a team friendly 1-year deal. If he were to able to sign him for 6 years at ~$3.5M he'd be more tradeable.

Let’s not pretend like we haven’t signed bad contracts since JR quit.

 

[Pens x]

Waive Ruh and Archibald. Play some guys under 30 FFS.

It really isn’t that hard. Why donate yet another young player only to keep a 32 year old depth guy? POJ is 10 years younger than Ruh. Why can’t this organization or fan base appreciate younger players?

This would be a no-brainer for literally every other NHL team. I think most other teams would laugh if you offered them Archibald and Ruh for POJ and Zohorna.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Let’s not pretend like we haven’t signed bad contracts since JR quit.

Oh I'm not.

Waive Ruh and Archibald. Play some guys under 30 FFS.

It really isn’t that hard. Why donate yet another young player only to keep a 32 year old depth guy? POJ is 10 years younger than Ruh. Why can’t this organization or fan base appreciate younger players?

This would be a no-brainer for literally every other NHL team. I think most other teams would laugh if you offered them Archibald and Ruh for POJ and Zohorna.

Waiving Ruhwedel and Archibald still doesn't make the team cap compliant.

 

[chethejet]

Ruhwedel has trade value. Friedman can play both positions and while POJ is not as highly regarded as he once was, I prefer he plays up here and Smith go down to work on his D. Now McGinn can be moved and that takes care of cap space. Teddy B can be jettisoned if Poehling in the fourth center. In any event moving a roster guy making 2 million or more has to be explored hard.

 

[SomeDude]

Not really. He produced solid for us for the cap hit. Not really worth it to judge an all or nothing player on a couple preseason games plus he had a rocket in G1.

He is an average to decent bottom 6 player. Not a guy you need to tie yourself to for 4 years. Those guys are not hard to replace. It's not like he's overly physical or talented that adds some dynamic to the bottom 2 lines that you couldn't replace with any number of guys for 1/2 the price or less.

 

[Andy99]

The Pens f**ked this up royally but they absolutely should not waive POJ if there’s no trade for an asset….imo, waive or trade a forward w some value like Blueger or McGinn and go with 12 forwards…if someone gets injured, they can possibly get an emergency call up or play a D on wing or go with 7 D….if they have to waive Dmen, they should waive Friedman…Ruh is too valuable to them, people saying otherwise are misinformed…

if they don’t waive or trade a forward, then Smith must be sent down, regardless of whether he’s their best roster choice, and Friedman should be waived…end of story…that’s the best use of assets

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[LOGiK]

@Zirakzigil "Recovering from surgery. Someone else will have to post lines please and thanks"
Now what did you do to yourself this time?

wat! no poll?

 

[Pens x]

The Pens f**ked this up royally but they absolutely should not waive POJ if there’s no trade for an asset….imo, waive or trade a forward w some value like Blueger or McGinn and go with 12 forwards…if someone gets injured, they can possibly get an emergency call up or play a D on wing or go with 7 D….if they have to waive Dmen, they should waive Friedman…Ruh is too valuable to them, people saying otherwise are misinformed…

if they don’t waive or trade a forward, then Smith must be sent down, regardless of whether he’s their best roster choice, and Friedman should be waived…end of story…that’s the best use of assets

Projecting Penguins Final Roster, Lines & Who Hits Waivers

The NHL salary cap will be a blessing in disguise for at least one Pittsburgh Penguins defenseman. The team cannot afford eight defenders, and though one of their nine is still eligible to be sent to the AHL, it does not appear the Penguins will go that route. After a preseason in which Ty Smith […]

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Lol. Just read the article - Archibald will be in the lineup in game 1. It might be time to bump the Archibald signing to see how many said he was simply a depth signing.

 

[Andy99]

Lol. Just read the article - Archibald will be in the lineup in game 1. It might be time to bump the Archibald signing to see how many said he was simply a depth signing.

Archie was always gonna be in the lineup the way they talked about him and his “skill set” or lack thereof…

 

[AjaxTelamon]

100%. I've been so impressed by Rakell defensively since he's come here. Hell, if we're unclear on who's the 4th PK'er then why not give him a go?

Because I'd rather he go the 1st PP where his playmaking, shot and defensive responsibility are all needed. I'd rather put a speedster like Kap or Rust on the PK's 2nd pairing.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Because I'd rather he go the 1st PP where his playmaking, shot and defensive responsibility are all needed. I'd rather put a speedster like Kap or Rust on the PK's 2nd pairing.

Me too but that's not gonna happen for a good while, if at all. Rust has seniority.
Our PP would have to really suck for personnel changes when healthy. Like bottom third of the league.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

And here I thought McGinn got signed to a 2-year deal. Yikes.

 

[K Fleur]

The Pens f**ked this up royally but they absolutely should not waive POJ if there’s no trade for an asset….imo, waive or trade a forward w some value like Blueger or McGinn and go with 12 forwards…if someone gets injured, they can possibly get an emergency call up or play a D on wing or go with 7 D….if they have to waive Dmen, they should waive Friedman…Ruh is too valuable to them, people saying otherwise are misinformed…

if they don’t waive or trade a forward, then Smith must be sent down, regardless of whether he’s their best roster choice, and Friedman should be waived…end of story…that’s the best use of assets

Projecting Penguins Final Roster, Lines & Who Hits Waivers

The NHL salary cap will be a blessing in disguise for at least one Pittsburgh Penguins defenseman. The team cannot afford eight defenders, and though one of their nine is still eligible to be sent to the AHL, it does not appear the Penguins will go that route. After a preseason in which Ty Smith […]

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Zucker-Malkin-Rust

Year 4 it’s gonna work.

 

[Andy99]

Zucker-Malkin-Rust

Year 4 it’s gonna work.

Lol… if only one of those guys could get Geno the puck… he’s still not shooting enough lol

 

[Zirakzigil]

@Zirakzigil "Recovering from surgery. Someone else will have to post lines please and thanks"
Now what did you do to yourself this time?

wat! no poll?

PRK survey on my eyes