Post-Game Talk: | Pens vs Caps | win | We won, but what did it cost us?

Who do we hate more?

  • Ovy

    Votes: 15 25.4%
  • Wilson

    Votes: 30 50.8%
  • Sheary

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Anne Hathaway

    Votes: 10 16.9%
  • Laviolette

    Votes: 2 3.4%

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Big Friggin Dummy

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I wouldn't hate it. Rust is floating big time.

One thing that has pissed me off this season with a lot of guys (Rust/Carter in particular) is when they just play soft and throw pucks away to avoid contact, or try to make cute plays, or try to make fling type passes at high speed all the time. They aren't Sid, and shit, that crap doesn't even work that often for Sid.

Last night Carter/Sid/Geno were absorbing checks more and then making plays instead of just throwing pucks away on low percentage plays to avoid contact.

That's how guys have to play all the time, especially the Rusts and Carters of the world. We aren't good enough to play a low contact game. I get that guys want to protect their bodies, but it's just not winning hockey.
Let's forget last night happened. Just take the W and move on with blinders on, because for as mediocre and old as the Caps looked, if they were healthy and didn't get like Niemi-caliber goaltending, I think the Pens probably lose that game. :laugh:
 
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Let's forget last night happened. Just take the W and move on with blinders on, because for as mediocre and old as the Caps looked, if they were healthy and didn't get like Niemi-caliber goaltending, I think the Pens probably lose that game. :laugh:
Yeah my stance on it is: let's see many more efforts like that. One win against a Caps team missing $40 million or whatever is nice and all, but it's not proof the Pens have turned anything around.

If they can play another solid two-way game against Toronto, I'll start to believe a little bit. They did good things last night, but it was just one game.
 
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Big Friggin Dummy

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Yeah my stance on it is: let's see many more efforts like that. One win against a Caps team missing $40 million or whatever is nice and all, but it's not proof the Pens have turned anything around.

If they can play another solid two-way game against Toronto, I'll start to believe a little bit. They did good things last night, but it was just one game.
I don't think they were ever as bad as the 7-game losing streak made them seem. They're just a mediocre nothingmancer that's probably gonna be scratching and clawing away all season to be a wildcard or something.
 
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3ladesof5teel

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I wouldn't hate it. Rust is floating big time.

One thing that has pissed me off this season with a lot of guys (Rust/Carter in particular) is when they just play soft and throw pucks away to avoid contact, or try to make cute plays, or try to make fling type passes at high speed all the time. They aren't Sid, and shit, that crap doesn't even work that often for Sid.

Last night Carter/Sid/Geno were absorbing checks more and then making plays instead of just throwing pucks away on low percentage plays to avoid contact.

That's how guys have to play all the time, especially the Rusts and Carters of the world. We aren't good enough to play a low contact game. I get that guys want to protect their bodies, but it's just not winning hockey.
I'll reserve judgement with Rust. He has done this much of his career. He goes rogue and then boom he will go on some redicoulous tears.

This is a reason many here were so surprised he resigned here for what he did.

He disappears on the power play as well and then next thing you know 4 goals in 4 games.

There is a very much so what have you done for me lately group on these boards though.
 

pistolpete11

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Grabner didn't really take off and play his best until he was like 29/30. In his final 243 games in the league, he had 103pts and 71 goals. I'm not interested in keeping this awful Kapanen experiment going for another 4 years just to see if the kid is a late bloomer like Grabner, tbh. :laugh:

Grabner was a PK specialist who could actually finish the chances his skating provided him. Kap's fast, that's literally it. He's got the brain of a squirrel and his shot is mediocre at best.
103points in 243 games is an 35point / 82 game pace. What a late bloomer :laugh:

You're missing the point if you think I'm saying to keep Kap. I'm saying Grabner also wasn't very good despite having some good seasons and positive attributes.
 

Big Friggin Dummy

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103points in 243 games is an 35point / 82 game pace. What a late bloomer :laugh:

You're missing the point if you think I'm saying to keep Kap. I'm saying Grabner also wasn't very good despite having some good seasons and positive attributes.
I'm not saying Grabner was good. I'm saying Kap's complete dogshit. :laugh:
 

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I'll reserve judgement with Rust. He has done this much of his career. He goes rogue and then boom he will go on some redicoulous tears.

This is a reason many here were so surprised he resigned here for what he did.

He disappears on the power play as well and then next thing you know 4 goals in 4 games.

There is a very much so what have you done for me lately group on these boards though.
his somewhat lack of production does not bother me, his floating does, he makes that L1 real liability defensively, he used to dig the pucks and hunt on forecheck, now he is just there, also his PP is just plain awful, he occupies that left wall, he does not win the lose pucks which is critical for PP set up, he is just MEH...
 

LOGiK

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Well.... 5 more years and I'm retiring. Hopefully good things will come in that five year =]
Sulli and I will retire together
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LOGiK

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The Kap contract was a disastrous decision at the time the ink hit the paper.
I've never liked him the first or second time he was here... especially getting fleeced to get him back.
A first....
for.... him.....
haha... nah...
 
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