Gurglesons
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He’s not very good. Slow as f*** and his offensive ability doesn’t make up for the defensive gaps.
The fact Ho-Sang got signed over him should tel you all it needs to.
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He’s not very good. Slow as f*** and his offensive ability doesn’t make up for the defensive gaps.
The fact Ho-Sang got signed over him should tel you all it needs to.
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I'd still sign him on a cheap if that would work, we could use some hands on this roster, he can't be worse than Gally
Empoleon8771
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Nah, Gusev's just a genuinely heinous player.
Think of all of Kessel's flaws while also being a bad skater and not being a consistent producer. That's Gusev.
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I get that but for a league minimum/1 year deal? That’s the real thought experiment here.
Like I said, there’s no way in hell he ends up here, it’s just a hypothetical for me.
Gurglesons
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I get that but for a league minimum/1 year deal? That’s the real thought experiment here.
Why though? He brings literally nothing we need.
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Vegas let him go with him playing 0 games for them, after they went to all the trouble to actually get him over to NA. Traded to NJ where they signed him to a 2 year deal, that they terminated in the second year. Signed with Florida and played 11 games. Got released from a PTO from the same team that signed Josh Ho-Sang to an AHL deal. Dude is done. There is no flyer to take here.
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Pick your drug of choice. Sid doesn't do drugs. Sid IS drugs.
Every time I think about Sid, I can't come up with a great comparison. He just seems like the kind of person that has good but not elite talent, but has trained his body to absolute perfection. His legs are huge, and not everyone can put on that muscle mass, especially without their joints breaking down, but the skating, the stickhandling, the shooting, the passing, the awareness, it all seems to come from a Kobe Bryant level commitment to practicing his craft.
The best comparison I can make would be a 4th line grinder with elite playmaking skills, edge work and drive to improve whatever needed improving. There are some good names to compare him to like Forsberg and Francis, but there is no direct comparison because 4th line grinders don't have his skill and most skilled players don't grind like Sid can.
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Crosby and Forsberg have nearly identical games aside from the fact Forsberg would absolutely truck dudes.
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And Forsberg turned his foot into jello. But there’s no hate for Emo Pete’s game from me; it’s a great skill set he had.
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Yeah sucks no one just wanted to trade the pens a starter+ to help us. Dicks.
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Sid has ridiculous, generational talent.
Sid also has ridiculous work ethic. The work ethic has been cancelled out somewhat by the injuries. The talent has been cancelled out somewhat by habit and not adjusting his game. He has let his creativity atrophy.
Anyway, still a generational talent and great player. The work ethic is also admirable but this was a 1-1OA prodigy. Not a plucky 2nd rounder who ascended
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Wait the Fancy Stats considered Malkin a much better player than Letang last year. Sad for fancy Stats.
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Don't know why this is even being brought up. They will both sign 3 year deals and the 3 Amigos will ride into the sunset together.
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Sure, but there are other teams in the league. That's what I'm getting at. I think Sully would Scanners Gusev's head from three states away if there was an actual offer on the table for him. And if he survived that, he'd deal with Burke.
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Sure, but there are other teams in the league. That's what I'm getting at. I think Sully would Scanners Gusev's head from three states away if there was an actual offer on the table for him. And if he survived that, he'd deal with Burke.
I mean he's burned through three teams. A really bad one, one with one of the best centers in the game who he was tried with and one who is desperate for cheap scoring talent for their top six. What team is left?
Like if he would've gotten traded by Jersey sure. But he literally got his contract terminated.
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This team would be in a much, much worse position if they lost Letang as opposed to Malkin. I think Geno's had a far better career, but as currently constructed, this team cannot afford to lose Letang and be left with the blueline he'd leave in his wake. Just can't happen. If Letang's on the outs, just blow it up.
They'll both be re-signed for whatever they ask though. I expect it to come in around $16 million or so for the both of them--roughly $8 million a piece--on three year deals.
If Letang's on the outs, just blow it up. They'll both be re-signed for whatever they ask though. I expect it to come in around $16 million or so for the both of them--roughly $8 million a piece--on three year deals.
because LeBrun brought it up…maybe Letang wants a five year deal because he thinks he can play until 40…we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes
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I don't think Geno's camp is gonna roll over and take a financial beating at the negotiation table or anything, but I think if Letang's team wanted to, they could make the Penguins' really sweat and give 'em hell. He's been on a ridiculous sweetheart deal throughout his prime and he's playing potentially the best hockey of his career. He could easily push for a raise and probably get it, because this team cannot begin to think about a blueline without Letang on it.
Geno probably takes a very slight pay cut to the tune of $8-8.5 million. Letang's probably getting a slight raise to be right around the same.
Geno probably takes a very slight pay cut to the tune of $8-8.5 million. Letang's probably getting a slight raise to be right around the same.
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