Big Friggin Dummy
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"We're gonna offer them more than we want, but less than they want, and we'll see what happens."
Hell yeah, bring on the chaos.
Hell yeah, bring on the chaos.
Whatever it is...Geno needs to let it heal and not rush back. I hate how quickly some of the Pens players come back from bad injuries and they never look right the rest of that season. I also have zero respect for the Pens medical staff so there's that too.FYI I listened to the PG’s Penguins podcast today and Mike DeFabo said he heard Malkin tore his ACL but Hextall wouldn’t confirm it so he didn’t report it…yikes, that’s why Inguess some people had Geno out until January…
I think the assets from a Letang deal could retool this team easily. You are right that a rebuild would not be done with the assets we have.
Possible age related decline aside, Letang's not a part of this team that needs retooling as far as I can see and barring getting the exact right player in UFA, I struggle to see it as more than a lateral shake up.
Hypothetically is this team worse with the below D..
Dumo - Klingberg 7.25 x 8
POJ - Marino
Matheson - Stetcher 3.25 x 3
vs
Dumo - Letang 8 x 3
POJ - Marino
Matheson - Friedman 2.5 x 2
Probably not but that's always the way. You're usually a better team if you can move your great guy and sign the one high end replacement in UFA. You rarely get to do it that way.
Regarding Malkin and Letang, Yohe said in a mailbag published today that Malkin will take "considerably less money" to finish his career in Pittsburgh. Letang is less likely to take a discount, largely because of the amount of money that has been going to defensemen lately.
Yohe mailbag: On Sidney Crosby's injury timeline, the Penguins' playoff chances and much more
Very true. I dunno.
I think there's a pretty good argument for retooling aggressively and hoping to be back in two years - you get a Klingberg and accelerate, great, but you're not banking on it. But that's just not hockey mentality. And it's not happening here unless things go bad.
I guess my point is what happens if Letang is demanding 9 mil and this team isn’t in playoff contention in January.
Geno rush back? He may suit up in December for the first time.Whatever it is...Geno needs to let it heal and not rush back. I hate how quickly some of the Pens players come back from bad injuries and they never look right the rest of that season. I also have zero respect for the Pens medical staff so there's that too.
But as for Letang. You deal our "core" aka 3 blokes - you are no longer all in. I don't think this team is all in right now either. The moves, what they lost, etc. It feels like they're sort of kind of half way in to wanting to make a serious run.
That's basically what I see happening in all reality. I'm guessing Geno comes in at like $8 million or so, and Letang probably gets a slight raise to be right around $8 million as well.
I was assuming Malkin would fall in the $7-$7.5 million range, but based on that Yohe comment, I wonder if it's possible that he'll go even lower. I wouldn't try to lowball him like that because I wouldn't want to take advantage of someone who's already giving the team a big benefit, but I'm curious to see what Malkin's lowest number actually would be.
I think Letang gets a raise at this point though, and probably with more term than Malkin gets. I think Crosby and Malkin both retire from the NHL at the same time, but I don't really know that we should assume Letang does as well. I think Crosby is going to be retiring when he still has some gas left in the tank, I think Crosby could easily play another 2-3 years beyond his current deal if he really wanted to (and I hope he does obviously). I think Letang is in the same boat, but I don't think that it's a given that Letang retires when Crosby does. I can easily see Letang getting a 5 year deal after this season and him playing at a high level though the majority of it.
Actually, if you want this team to be set up well to rebuild after Crosby and Malkin retire, I'd throw out the idea of giving Letang a 5 year, $8 million AAV deal, with the plan on using Letang either as the new captain in the "transition years" or as a trade chip after Crosby and Malkin retire. A 38 year old Letang will probably still be playing at a high enough level where you can either make him your captain or get a solid futures return for him to help jump start the retool.
Hypothetically is this team worse with the below D..
Dumo - Klingberg 7.25 x 8
POJ - Marino
Matheson - Stetcher 3.25 x 3
vs
Dumo - Letang 8 x 3
POJ - Marino
Matheson - Friedman 2.5 x 2
And that’s without including the 1st, ++ we got for Letang.