LeBrun: Penguins & Coyotes have had multiple discussions around Chychrun

[Scandale du Jour]

The assets that we shouldn't be moving.... Franchise will never learn, I can't believe the Caps are being smarter than us right now!

Bah, the Caps are in a "we do not give a f*** about anything other than Ovechkin getting the record mode". Easier for them to be sellers and prepare life after Ovechkin.

I do not think Letang and Malkin would have re-signed if management had not made it clear to them that they would go all in.

Anyway, what could we sell that would return valuable assets and let us "reset" the supporting cast?

 

[rt]

That would have to be BOTH 1sts AND Pickering if you want Vejmelka too.

 

[Zbynek]

If the pens could land both, I'd pay two first. sets them up for three years then crosby and Malkin can retire and you burn it to the ground.

Then we flip Jarry. Come on Hextall get it done. I believe in you.

 

[Kranix]

No thanks. Bad for fantasy

 

[Zbynek]

That would have to be BOTH 1sts AND Pickering if you want Vejmelka too.

That is really steep but honestly I'd do it. You'd have to take Kapanen's contract off our hands of course.

But in theory that solves 2 massive issues for the Pens. We'd then need to salvage our bottom-6 with assets from trading Jarry/Zucker/Dumo.

 

[rt]

Yet he extended him for no reason.. Hextall is a terrible GM and MS is a horrible coach who needs to be fired. Guys are done playing for him, well 2 years too late anyways

This reminds me of when Maloney wanted Provorov 3rd, Tippett wanted to trade the pick for Hamilton, and the scouts threatened to quit on the spot if they didn’t take Strome. Maloney caved to the scouts and picked Strome. Tippett later stages a coup with some minority owners to ouster Maloney. Tippett (with a new front office title) installed a “puppet” in Chayka - who fired all the scouts anyway, and later arraigned to have Tippett himself kicked to the curb.

 

[threeVo]

AZ banking on PIT falling off a cliff once Sid is 38 and they have to blow up an old ass roster. PIT could flip Chychrun to recoup some of those assets, but its not looking like a bright future in PIT. They have shit prospects and really old stars.

 

[Stickpucker]

If I were a Penguins fan...Pittsburg need to shit or get off the pot.

As a fan of a team in their division....yes please keep aiming for 10th in the east.

 

[Nakawick]

If the pens could land both, I'd pay two first. sets them up for three years then crosby and Malkin can retire and you burn it to the

Then we flip Jarry. Come on Hextall get it done. I believe in you.

I think they would keep Jarry for the rest of season even if we brought in another goalie.

 

[Dr Danglefest]

The article says AZ wants the ‘25 & ‘26 1sts as part of the package but Hextall doesn’t want to trade ANY 1sts. The article also suggests Hextall is trying to move Kapanen.

Haha imagine trying to trade for a player like Chychrun with a bottom 5 prospect pool and take any 1st round pick off the table? Absolutely wild

 

[Nakawick]

If I were a Penguins fan...Pittsburg need to shit or get off the pot.

As a fan of a team in their division....yes please keep aiming for 10th in the east.

Oh the “fire Hextall” chants echoed through the arena last night.

 

[Rorschach]

LA is the least leaky team in the NHL. Yet there were rumors abound. Then LA directly calls Clarke’s team, Ari’s trade target in LA for Chychrun, that he won’t be traded at all. My guess is these “proposals” are all crap put out by Arizona’s side to drum up interest and drive up the price, including this Pittsburgh “interest”.

 

[A1LeafNation]

They need Vejmelka as well. Jarry and DeSmith aren't getting that team anywhere.

 

[Zbynek]

If I were a Penguins fan...Pittsburg need to shit or get off the pot.

We have been told the biggest strength of our GM is his patience. The fruits of Ronnie's labor are on their way!

 

[Night Shift]

That is really steep but honestly I'd do it. You'd have to take Kapanen's contract off our hands of course.

But in theory that solves 2 massive issues for the Pens. We'd then need to salvage our bottom-6 with assets from trading Jarry/Zucker/Dumo.

With our window closed absolutely Not. 2025 and 2026 are likely to be lottery years. No ****** way. I'll side with Sleepy here.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

If I were a Penguins fan...Pittsburg need to shit or get off the pot.

As a fan of a team in their division....yes please keep aiming for 10th in the east.

In a perfect world they just punt at the deadline. Moving Dumo Teddy mcginn archabald heine for picks.
Consider moving rust and just retool in the offseason

 

[rt]

They need Vejmelka as well. Jarry and DeSmith aren't getting that team anywhere.

Price for Vejmelka ought to be a first, or two 2nds, or a 2nd and a prospect.

 

[IrishFin]

LA is the least leaky team in the NHL. Yet there were rumors abound. Then LA directly calls Clarke’s team, Ari’s trade target in LA for Chychrun, that he won’t be traded at all. My guess is these “proposals” are all crap put out by Arizona’s side to drum up interest and drive up the price, including this Pittsburgh “interest”.

Do you honestly think Bill Armstrong is feeding information to a Pittsburgh beat writer about internal conversations between Pittsburgh’s management?

 

[belair]

The Athletic reporting that PHO wants our 1sts in '25 and '26 but Hextall doesn't want to give them up.

Which is smart because Pittsburgh is probably going to be ass in those years even with Chychrun.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Bah, the Caps are in a "we do not give a f*** about anything other than Ovechkin getting the record mode". Easier for them to be sellers and prepare life after Ovechkin.

I do not think Letang and Malkin would have re-signed if management had not made it clear to them that they would go all in.

Anyway, what could we sell that would return valuable assets and let us "reset" the supporting cast?

Zucker, Dumo, Blueger, Jarry, Rust, Kapanen, Pettersson. Those guys should all be made available if you ask me. Use picks to draft and also trade for better younger players going forward

 

[rt]

Do you honestly think Bill Armstrong is feeding information to a Pittsburgh beat writer about internal conversations between Pittsburgh’s management?

This Chychrun scenario is bringing out some troubling realities about how people’s brains work.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Price for Vejmelka ought to be a first, or two 2nds, or a 2nd and a prospect.

2nd and a prospect makes sense for me. Like 2nd + Puustinen + Desmith.

But no way a 1st, I don't understand the value of Vejmelka. He has played 92 NHL games and has a .900 SV%. I know people will say "But Arizona" But how much better do you really think he can be on a better team? Is he really considered a #1 franchise goaltender on a better team?

I don't see it but maybe I am missing something from an advanced stats perspective that would make him worth a lottery pick.

 

[rt]

With our window closed absolutely Not. 2025 and 2026 are likely to be lottery years. No ****** way. I'll side with Sleepy here.

Me personally, I’d happily do Chychrun for Pickering, ‘23 1sr, ‘23 2nd.

2nd and a prospect makes sense for me. Like 2nd + Puustinen + Desmith.

But no way a 1st, I don't understand the value of Vejmelka. He has played 92 NHL games and has a .900 SV%. I know people will say "But Arizona" But how much better do you really think he can be on a better team? Is he really considered a #1 franchise goaltender on a better team?

I don't see it but maybe I am missing something from an advanced stats perspective that would make him worth a lottery pick.

Nah. A better prospect than that. And pay extra for the dump.

Yes, you are missing a tremendous amount. His advanced metrics are through the roof and any teams that face the Coyotes regularly understand how hard he makes it to play Arizona.

If you let in 5 goals on 50 shots, that’s .900 but it’s also 45 saves. That’s Vejmelka. Especially when you look at high danger and saves above expected.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Starting point would probably be Pickering + 1st + roster player.

Can't believe they would be willing to even go there and start with something like that. Chychrun doesn't put this team over the top, not now and not for the next few years.

 

[Pancakes]

The 25 and 26 firsts are too much to ask for. We could be a lottery team either of those years.

I'd do this year's first + a few of our top prospects. Is that enough for Arizona? Probably not, no. But it's the best we could do.