Proposal: Penguins and Arizona

[Toby Flenderson]

Kris Letang and Conor Sheary

For

Niklas Hjarmalsson and Max Domi




Looking at AZ defense they have a plethora of LHD (OEL, Hammer, Goligoski, Chychrun). Adding a top pairing RHD could better balance their top 4. They also acquire a guy who struggled this season but can provide depth scoring and speed.

The Pens get a guy who won’t produce as much offense from the back end but is arguably much better at actually defending which the team needs. Max Domi is a big piece here too. He’s a talented guy that struggled this season and was rumored to be available earlier in the year. He could use a fresh start and could light it up with Sid/Malkin.


Thoughts?

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[Hockeyholic]

AZ easily says no.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

No from Pittsburgh.

 

[USMC607]

You're not going to get a positive response from penguin fans.

Prepare yourself for what is to come.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

It's basically a Letang-Hjalmarsson swap, where Arizona gets a better return.

 

[SpaceCoyote]

Hjalmarsson prefers the right side. Also the coyotes were 2nd overall for defensive scoring 5 on 5 last season, no need to add more offensively minded D men.

 

[Gurglesons]

AZ easily says no.

Why would Arizona say no to this?

They essentially move what will be an upcoming overpaid UFA and a player they’ve supposedly lost faith in for a top ten offensive D man that they can shield in a #3 role.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Why would Arizona say no to this?

They essentially move what will be an upcoming overpaid UFA and a player they’ve supposedly lost faith in for a top ten offensive D man that they can shield in a #3 role.

Yeah, Arizona would be happy to take a deal like this.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Why would Arizona say no to this?

They essentially move what will be an upcoming overpaid UFA and a player they’ve supposedly lost faith in for a top ten offensive D man that they can shield in a #3 role.

Letang is injury prone,brain dead prone, and expensive. At their best, Letang may be better. But said reasons above is why the yotes should say no.

 

[Gurglesons]

Letang is injury prone,brain dead prone, and expensive. At their best, Letang may be better. But said reasons above is why the yotes should say no.

But, like.. they are probably losing Hammer next season. So, they are essentially moving Domi to give them the best one two offense punch on their D in the West and arguably the league.

The last time Letang had a healthy off season was 2016 and 2013. He finished 3rd and 4th in Norris votes.

The risk is totally worth it for the Yotes.

Also, the deal is essentially impossible with Letang’s NTC.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Letang is injury prone,brain dead prone, and expensive. At their best, Letang may be better. But said reasons above is why the yotes should say no.

The clause, really, is the factor.

 

[CapnZin]

I honestly think this is a fair trade. The sentimentality of Letang to Pittsburgh will push them away if they’re not drooling at the offer, but I think the basis of this is fair.

Domi adds toughness, skill, and grit to a weak pens lineup that needs what he has. Plus he’s a top 6 forward that would create magic with Crosby.

Sheary doesn’t seem to be much of he’s not tied to Crosby’s side.

 

[SEALBound]

Add Lawson Crouse and Pens add Kuhnhackl.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This trade is atrocious for the Penguins unless you pretend Domi still has the value he had as a rookie. This website is terrible when it comes to player valuation.

 

[Hockeyholic]

This trade is atrocious for the Penguins unless you pretend Domi still has the value he had as a rookie. This website is terrible when it comes to player valuation.

I'd rather have a guy not as talented on my team in Niklas Hjarmalsson, but makes simple plays, over a brain dead turnover machine in Letang.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

This trade is atrocious for the Penguins unless you pretend Domi still has the value he had as a rookie. This website is terrible when it comes to player valuation.

Max Domi is absolutely a noticeable upgrade on offense from Sheary. And yes Letang holds more value, but hammer will do a better job of keeping pucks out of our net then Letang does. We already have an offensive denfenseman that can QB a PP in Schultz.

 

[rt]

But, like.. they are probably losing Hammer next season. So, they are essentially moving Domi to give them the best one two offense punch on their D in the West and arguably the league.

The last time Letang had a healthy off season was 2016 and 2013. He finished 3rd and 4th in Norris votes.

The risk is totally worth it for the Yotes.

Also, the deal is essentially impossible with Letang’s NTC.

I’d prefer to keep Domi and Hjalmarsson. Domi has great chemistry with Strome. Hjalmarsson is great buddies with OEL and best buddies with Kruger. I think he’ll stay. He was fantastic when he wasn’t hurt last year.

 

[rt]

Max Domi is absolutely a noticeable upgrade on offense from Sheary. And yes Letang holds more value, but hammer will do a better job of keeping pucks out of our net then Letang does. We already have an offensive denfenseman that can QB a PP in Schultz.

These are the reasons Arizona would likely decline the deal. We need to make a move or two or three. Just not this one.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'd rather have a guy not as talented on my team in Niklas Hjarmalsson, but makes simple plays, over a brain dead turnover machine in Letang.

And that's why you're not a GM. You take Letang over Hjalmarsson 100% of the time because he's an insanely better player.

Max Domi is absolutely a noticeable upgrade on offense from Sheary. And yes Letang holds more value, but hammer will do a better job of keeping pucks out of our net then Letang does. We already have an offensive denfenseman that can QB a PP in Schultz.

A. The Penguins don't need an upgrade on Sheary.
B. The value is absolute garbage from the Penguins POV. Trading Letang for a young guy we don't need and a pending UFA defenseman is a terrible idea.

 

[Hockeyholic]

And that's why you're not a GM. You take Letang over Hjalmarsson 100% of the time because he's an insanely better player.



A. The Penguins don't need an upgrade on Sheary.
B. The value is absolute garbage from the Penguins POV. Trading Letang for a young guy we don't need and a pending UFA defenseman is a terrible idea.

Except....he isn't.

 

[Michael Farkas]

No thanks from Pittsburgh.

At some point, you cross a threshold (perhaps it's making a post to every other response?), where you're talking about a player with limited hockey sense so much that you end up turning the gun on yourself...ironically enough...

Each defenseman listed in the trade has some limitations, no question...there's lipstick on both pigs, I wouldn't try to pimp the notion that one them lies in cleaner ****...

 

[Gurglesons]

Except....he isn't.

Kris Letang is top ten in Norris votes literally every year he is healthy outside of last year when he was cleared for contact three weeks before the season.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Kris Letang is top ten in Norris votes literally every year he is healthy outside of last year when he was cleared for contact three weeks before the season.

Right...but he's always injured...

 

[Gurglesons]

Right...but he's always injured...

2012, 2013, 2015, 2016.

So he had two season where he missed out due to injury in the last six. He also has missed two playoffs in his career.

You’re also arguing Hammer is a better D. It’s simply not true. If you want to say he is the healthier D that is fine.

 

[Hockeyholic]

2012, 2013, 2015, 2016.

So he had two season where he missed out due to injury in the last six. He also has missed two playoffs in his career.

You’re arguing Hammer is a better D. It’s simply not true.

Today? Hammer is a better D.