Value of: Paul Martin

[PackShark]

Paul Martin is pretty much worthless on the trade market until he can get on the ice and prove that he's healthy again. The Joakim Ryan stuff doesn't fully explain Paul Martin's continued absence from the lineup. There was plenty of time there where they didn't care too much about Ryan including a scratch here and there. The fact is that Martin is either not healthy enough or is healthy and not capable enough anymore to warrant a spot in the lineup.

I don't anticipate us getting much for him in a deal. Maybe 4th or 5th round pick. I have a feeling the organization knows something we don't as far as where his game is at. Good news is that Wilson has gotten good value for over the hill players in the past (Murray, Clowe, Stuart). My guess is that Wilson is working to send him to an eastern contender and will run deals by him despite his NTC only being 6 teams I believe.

 

[ichabod13]

That's o k we're both tax guys I'm IRS

well you just went from friend to foe........

 

[thewookie1]

Beaulieu & Josefson (when healthy)

for

Martin, 2018 4th and a 2019 3rd

 

[Juxtaposer]

Beaulieu & Josefson (when healthy)

for

Martin, 2018 4th and a 2019 3rd

The Sharks aren’t in a position to be trading picks.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I don't anticipate us getting much for him in a deal. Maybe 4th or 5th round pick. I have a feeling the organization knows something we don't as far as where his game is at. Good news is that Wilson has gotten good value for over the hill players in the past (Murray, Clowe, Stuart). My guess is that Wilson is working to send him to an eastern contender and will run deals by him despite his NTC only being 6 teams I believe.

All those examples were playing at the time they were dealt. Until Martin does the same, it's going to be very difficult to move him.

 

[72hockey guy]

well you just went from friend to foe........

no worries my friend, out in holtsville I always gave Islanders fans a break, but god help those Ranger fans.......haha

 

[PackShark]

All those examples were playing at the time they were dealt. Until Martin does the same, it's going to be very difficult to move him.

That is true, but all were playing poorly in my opinion at the time of the trades. I believe Clowe had zero goals that year at the time he was dealt (most likely due to the concussion issues he had). Stuart was a tire fire his final year here and Murray could not keep up with the speed anymore. Hopefully a few games with the Cuda can convince teams he can play still.

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

For people questioning his health, quote from Kevin Kurz, saying what I said earlier about Martin being healthy.

"Martin has been healthy since the end of the Christmas break but has remained out of the lineup, as young blue-liners like Tim Heed, Joakim Ryan and Dylan DeMelo have all played well."

 

[WTFetus]

That is true, but all were playing poorly in my opinion at the time of the trades. I believe Clowe had zero goals that year at the time he was dealt (most likely due to the concussion issues he had). Stuart was a tire fire his final year here and Murray could not keep up with the speed anymore. Hopefully a few games with the Cuda can convince teams he can play still.

He isn't with the Barracuda anymore. His conditioning stint is over.

 

[Halla]

2nd + B prospect at the deadline

 

[Pinkfloyd]

For people questioning his health, quote from Kevin Kurz, saying what I said earlier about Martin being healthy.

"Martin has been healthy since the end of the Christmas break but has remained out of the lineup, as young blue-liners like Tim Heed, Joakim Ryan and Dylan DeMelo have all played well."

Except I don't buy that for a second. If he was healthy, he'd be playing at some point since then. He had his one shot and was awful. It may just be that Martin isn't going to be the same player he was after his injury.

 

[PackShark]

He isn't with the Barracuda anymore. His conditioning stint is over.

I’m fully aware of that dude. I was suggesting that games with the Barracuda are a possibility if we put him on waivers and he’s not claimed.

 

[rent free]

Leafs will give you mcelhinney at the end of the season.

 

[tony d]

Stephen Harper and a mid level backbencher.

Seriously I thought Vegas would take a look at him at the expansion draft. Maybe they add him for some extra defensive depth as they look to make the playoffs.

 

[dats81]

Kimmo Timonen did not play a single game during the regular season in 14/15 and the Flyers still got a 2nd and a 3rd rounder for him.

Of course blood clots are not comparable to broken bones or torn cartilage or whatever might be wrong with Paul Martin's ankle. If he can be medically cleared to play, he should absolutely be tradeable. That's what the concept of conditional draft picks was made for.

 

[Lebanezer]

Nah...California Dept. of Tax and Fee Administration formerly BOE.

That's o k we're both tax guys I'm IRS

So you two might be able to find out what Paul Martin is actually worth then...

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Back to New Jersey who's nowhere near the cap. 36 year old Martin at a 4.85 cap hit has negative value. For those saying he can still play and has value. What is that actually based on? Look at the decline of guys like Seidenberg, Beauchemin who are right around the same age, got bought out and are now playing on 1 year deals for around 1M each.

Paul Martin: in real dollars owed 2.2 for this season + 4.25 next season

for

Eddie Lack: in real dollars still owed 1.5M for the rest of this season.

=4.95 for 1.5 seasons of Martin

 

[seafoam]

Would San Jose be interested in Greiss + for Martin (at full price) + Dell?

 

[inthe6ix]

Leafs will give you mcelhinney at the end of the season.

They can have Mcbackup now if they want him for PM straight up.

Perfectly fine running with Pickard behind Freddy for insurance.

Still think PM has some game left; just wondering if he is a top 4 guy or a bottom-pairing defender at this point.

 

[rent free]

They can have Mcbackup now if they want him for PM straight up.

Perfectly fine running with Pickard behind Freddy for insurance.

Still think PM has some game left; just wondering if he is a top 4 guy or a bottom-pairing defender at this point.

If he's an NHL defender I'll take him. Better than having polak

 

[TheNewEra]

If Martin has some game left wouldn't be surprised if Columbus makes a move for him if they trade JJ

 

[inthe6ix]

If he's an NHL defender I'll take him. Better than having polak

Heh true, maybe we can offer DW a throw-in with Marincin as well.

 

[rent free]

Heh true, maybe we can offer Jarmo a throw-in with Marincin as well.

Id keep him cuz of his pk abilities.

 

[inthe6ix]

Id keep him cuz of his pk abilities.

This doesn't sell PM very well:

 

[rent free]

This doesn't sell him very well:

Idc tbh he's better than polak and we need a good defender.