Patrick Marleau and the hall of fame

[Filthy Dangles]

He's part of the 500G, 1000P club but he's mainly been a compiler. He deserves credit for longevity and being a good productive player for all those years but never truly an elite player.

There's only three eligible players with more points than him who aren't in the Hall and they played in the 80s/90s high scoring eras. Turgeon, Roenick and Damphousse

0 Top-10 point finishes, 0 individual hardware, 0 finalists for hardware. 0 Stanley cups.

Of the 41 members of the 500-1000 club, only 4 eligibles aren't in, Verbeek, Tkachuk, Roenick and Turgeon again.

Should he get in?

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[Toene]

No. Should be in the Hall of Very Good imo.

 

[Territory]

Yes. The Hall of Fame is about a career not individual seasons. He's had an elite career. He's still going. International success. He's in 100%.

 

[nobody]

As someone who was THE face of the franchise in San Jose for a long long time, Patty Marleau is going to get in. He might not be a first ballot though, but he'll find his way. 500+ goals and 1100+ points. Hard to deny a guy like that. Specially when he has always been such a likeable guy.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

He's part of the 500G, 1000P club but he's mainly been a compiler. He deserves credit for longevity and being a good productive player for all those years but never truly an elite player.

There's only two eligible players with more points than him who aren't in the Hall and they played in the 80s/90s high scoring eras. Turgeon and Damphousse.

0 Top-10 point finishes, 0 individual hardware, 0 finalists for hardware. 0 Stanley cups.

Of the 41 members of the 500-1000 club, only 3 eligibles aren't in, Verbeek, Tkachuk and Turgeon again.

Should he get in?

I don't think Roenick is in

 

[Huokaus]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...ype-surrounding-marleau-and-the-hhof.2411519/
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/is-patrick-marleau-a-hall-of-famer.2410575/
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...oals-is-that-good-enough-for-the-hof.2399479/

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I don't think Roenick is in

good eye missed him.

 

[nobody]

I don't think Roenick is in

Roenick is a victim of his own personality I think. For as many fans he may have, he has as many if not more people who disliked his antics and opinions. I think he'll get into the HHOF one day but I personally believe that is one of the biggest factors holding him back.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'm pretty mixed on him, I guess personally id like to see him get in at some point. Not sure hes had a high enough ceiling, but he is a great player.

 

[Kale Hulls]

Turgeon isn't in, and he has 1300+ points in less games. It's hard to say when guys like Neely are there imo.

 

[Brownbeard]

I think so, and would've said so before he became a Leaf.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

For the longest time as long as you got 500 goals and 1000 points you were a lock pretty much but now it is even going to get more silly as alot more players will fail to reach those marks and you would think have to get in.

Datsyuk, Toews, Bergeron will all fall quite short of those marks and you have to think they are all getting in.. zetterberg too.

 

[Coffey]

Nope.

The HoF isn't a longevity reward.
Only reason why Andreychuk got in was because most players don't play 1600 games, but he also has a ring.

Marleau has nothing.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I think he could get in eventually, just not first ballot.

 

[Coffey]

For the longest time as long as you got 500 goals and 1000 points you were a lock pretty much but now it is even going to get more silly as alot more players will fail to reach those marks and you would think have to get in.

Datsyuk, Toews, Bergeron will all fall quite short of those marks and you have to think they are all getting in.. zetterberg too.

Lot of individual trophies and SC rings between those guys. Marleau has none of the above.

 

[bobermay]

He's going to end up being:
Top 10 in GP (Possibly top 5)
Top 7 in GWG (Possibly top 4)
Top 30 in G
Top 75 in A
Top 50 in P
Top 10 in Playoff GWG (Possibly Top 5)
Top 25 in Playoff GP
Top 50 in Playoff Points
TWO Olympic Medals...

What more does a man have to do to be acknowledged for an incredible career?

 

[Martin Skoula]

It's early but he looks like he still has a few years left in his legs. Wouldn't be surprised to see him take one or two one-year mercenary contracts once he's done in Toronto. Could still be a cup in his future.

 

[Saekk]

He's going to end up being:
Top 10 in GP (Possibly top 5)
Top 7 in GWG (Possibly top 4)
Top 30 in G
Top 75 in A
Top 50 in P
Top 10 in Playoff GWG (Possibly Top 5)
Top 25 in Playoff GP
Top 50 in Playoff Points
TWO Olympic Medals...

What more does a man have to do to be acknowledged for an incredible career?

Stanley Cup.

 

[Helistin]

Does he belong in the hall of fame or hall of very good for a very long time. Not sure.
Maybe as a compromise just induct only his eyebrows to hall of fame?

 

[bobermay]

Does he belong in the hall of fame or hall of very good for a very long time. Not sure.
Maybe as a compromise just induct only his eyebrows to hall of fame?

Funny, I thought it was the Hall of Fame we're talking about and not the Hall of Generational Talents...

 

[sansabri]

Maybe when you ask the 8th time more people will say yes.

Still a no from me for now.

 

[Oberyn]

He's going to end up being:
Top 10 in GP (Possibly top 5)
Top 7 in GWG (Possibly top 4)
Top 30 in G
Top 75 in A
Top 50 in P
Top 10 in Playoff GWG (Possibly Top 5)
Top 25 in Playoff GP
Top 50 in Playoff Points
TWO Olympic Medals...

What more does a man have to do to be acknowledged for an incredible career?

Win some hardware

 

[bobermay]

Stanley Cup.

Marleau is currently #36 in Playoff GP, he's due...

The only person ahead on him in Playoffs GP who didn't win at least one cup (vast majority won 3 or more), was Dale Hunter.

 

[bobermay]

Fun fact, Patrick Marleau has missed the playoffs only twice in his NHL career.

 

[GTA]

He's going to end up being:
Top 10 in GP (Possibly top 5)
Top 7 in GWG (Possibly top 4)
Top 30 in G
Top 75 in A
Top 50 in P
Top 10 in Playoff GWG (Possibly Top 5)
Top 25 in Playoff GP
Top 50 in Playoff Points
TWO Olympic Medals...

What more does a man have to do to be acknowledged for an incredible career?

GWG is such a bogus stat - how many goals did he score that truely won the game?

It’s tough to consider him an all time great with 0 personal hardware, 0 top 10s and no Stanley cups. I hate that players are starting to get in on longevity alone. Was he ever even a top 10 player in the league?