Patrick Kane, quietly trudging along

[Esq]

They were both on 6M deals at the time

And Panarin was a goner in a year when he hit UFA. You can make the case (i) we didn't get enough value, and (ii) we traded him a bit too soon, but to say "why the hawks break up Panarin and Kane?" ignores the facts.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

When the Hawks' GM announced the team was taking a new approach which was to "let the kids" play, it was essentially announcing a rebuild without using the actual word "rebuild". I applauded the new approach, even though it should have been done a couple years earlier. So my expectations for the season was to watch Kane be Kane and see how the Hawks rookies and young players looked. And that's pretty much how it's gone so far, albeit with much better expected results from the young players.

A typical lineup for the Hawks has 6 rookies playing - forwards Suter, Kurashev and Hagel, d-men Mitchell and Beaudin, and goalie Lankinen. And that doesn't include Kubalik and Boqvist who were rookies last season. So while they're not ready to be a playoff team yet - they are pretty competitive on a game to game basis and I think Kane is relishing his veteran leadership position.

 

[BB88]

And Panarin was a goner in a year when he hit UFA. You can make the case (i) we didn't get enough value, and (ii) we traded him a bit too soon, but to say "why the hawks break up Panarin and Kane?" ignores the facts.

He had 2 years on his deal.

They kept Saad 1 year longer, that with the return doesn’t made the trade ok in any level

 

[Esq]

He had 2 years on his deal.

They kept Saad 1 year longer, that with the return doesn’t made the trade ok in any level

We are sorry you disapprove! But either way, Panarin was not staying long-term.

 

[cliffclaven]

A lot of the defensive problems were due to the forwards, not the defensemen. Team defense is markedly improved from last year and the first two games against Tampa (not surprising).

The forwards are playing a more complete 200 foot game, with effort in all zones right now. Backchecking and board work, zone coverage, first to the puck, and playing more cohesively together as a unit, all are far superior to the past two years. Young, talented, and skilled, yet still blue collar workers.

It’s actually enjoyable to watch, and it’s damn near impossible not to root for them, even though I was expecting/hoping for a high draft pick with Toews and Dach out.

Yep. People seem to forget the defensive forwards on the cup teams. A selke winner in toews, another that should’ve won one in Hossa, plus Sharp and Bolland, on top of 5 legit #1 pairing D men. Kruger and Frolik were two of the best pk forwards also.

 

[BB88]

We are sorry you disapprove! But either way, Panarin was not staying long-term.

Well it was just a garbage move, and what they have been doing enough lately

 

[PensandCaps]

Well, it's not like we were going to pay him what the Rangers did. So whether it was that year or another year, the pair would be broken up either way.

You find a way. Move Toews.

 

[Esq]

You find a way. Move Toews.

Hindsight is 20/20 on that one, particularly if Toews is out long-term / forever. But there was no realistic way for us to willingly move our captain 2+ years after winning his third cup. Would have been awful from a PR perspective, and Panarin was pushed around badly in the 2017 series sweep vs. Nashville.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

he's a beauty, a true superstar yet still somehow forgotten when people talk about the best players in the game. He's still top 10 AINEC

 

[ello]

Hindsight is 20/20 on that one, particularly if Toews is out long-term / forever. But there was no realistic way for us to willingly move our captain 2+ years after winning his third cup. Would have been awful from a PR perspective, and Panarin was pushed around badly in the 2017 series sweep vs. Nashville.

Panarin was fine, no worse than anyone else was that series.

like others said, you find a way to build around a player like Panarin. You don’t trade him to accommodate other contracts, unless the Hawks couldn’t see his long term potential (which they clearly didn’t).

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Panarin was fine, no worse than anyone else was that series.

like others said, you find a way to build around a player like Panarin. You don’t trade him to accommodate other contracts, unless the Hawks couldn’t see his long term potential (which they clearly didn’t).

No I'm sure they did.....they couldn't move Toews or Seabrook, because Toews was just coming off of two down years in a row and Seabrook was finished. Keith and Kane were still good. They had no choice. The only argument is that they didn't get enough for him but there was the argument that he was a product of Kane at the time, so there was no way they were ever going to get fair value for Panarin.

The only way they could have kept Panarin is to not make the Seabrook mistake. Once that happened, his fate was sealed.

 

[ClydeLee]

He had 2 years on his deal.

They kept Saad 1 year longer, that with the return doesn’t made the trade ok in any level

It was to start retooling/rebuilding because they knew with Hossa retiring and where they were, those 2 years were not gonna be winning years. If they kept Panarin and Hjalmarsson they make the playoffs but probably don't win a round, vs two top 10 pick additions has been a better approach.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Who gives a crap about Panarin?

This thread is about how Patrick Kane is still tearing it up in his 14th NHL season.
Let us enjoy one of the greats while we still can.

 

[Geoist]

I was just going to create this thread-LOL. Amazing performer year in/year out. He also seems to have matured a lot. Wearing the "A" and did I see this right, playing the PK last night? For my money, he's the best American forward of all time.

Can't tell you if he did, but I will say Kane should NEVER be on the PK. Dont care how well he's playing.

 

[Geoist]

You find a way. Move Toews.

And how do you move Toews?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

And how do you move Toews?

Ltir

 

[Bobby Orr's Knees]

Why are we talking about Panarin (who is obviously great)?

Patrick Kane deserves mad respect for quietly going about his business - and getting it done. He's matured a lot and should be getting all sort of accolades for his effort this year. Not giving up is the hardest thing. Patrick Kane does not give up.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

That assist he had last night was sugary sweet.

 

[jls24]

That assist he had last night was sugary sweet.

Which one? Both were filthy.

 

[SimpleJack]

And how do you move Toews?

Get about a 10 foot running head start and use a nice forearm shove.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

its Patrick Kane nobody should be surprised,one of my favorite players

 

[Hoochi Papa]

Have to admire his will to keep on performing when team around him dove deep into shit. You'll never know how good your team could be, if given a free pass to mail it in. Should be recognized among the greatest of 2000s.

 

[Look Up]

No doubt somedays he does feel like he is trudging.

 

[jaysoneil]

I think Kane has adjusted quite well to this new look the Hawks have. He's in a more leadership type role while still producing at an elite level.

He's also clearly still having a ton of fun from what I've seen, which could be difficult for some players considering the amount of success Chicago has had.

The dude genuinely loves playing.

 

[saluki]

Before you know it he'll be an UFA. I guarantee you the Hawks will lowball him as far as his career ending deal goes. They'll have a ton of guys to resign. It's up to him whether to accept it or not.

I think a team will open up the bank for him.