Player Discussion Patrice Bergeron III

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[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

thank you hockey gods for letting us unworthy fans see this guys entire career in black and gold.

and shame on me for suggesting in his rookie season he would be close to dale hunter for a career impact. obviously I was wrong. we are watching my vote now today for best 2 way forward in nhl history

{all apologies to sergei federov and pavel datsyuk}

 

[TwineTickler]

Everyone comment on this and tell this guys he's a moron.

Players Vote Patrice Bergeron As Third-Best All-Around NHL Player, P.K. Subban As Most Overrated

This was posted in the previous Bergy thread before it was closed and I feel like should be discussed more. Pretty damn cool and deserving.

 

[ODAAT]

Everyone comment on this and tell this guys he's a moron.

Players Vote Patrice Bergeron As Third-Best All-Around NHL Player, P.K. Subban As Most Overrated

This was posted in the previous Bergy thread before it was closed and I feel like should be discussed more. Pretty damn cool and deserving.

I try to only waste my time on those worth wasting my time on, this clown isn`t one of them

 

[TwineTickler]

I try to only waste my time on those worth wasting my time on, this clown isn`t one of them

True... but he's just sooooo wrong, I feel like he should have his nose rubbed in it. Maybe pushed in it.

 

[ODAAT]

True... but he's just sooooo wrong, I feel like he should have his nose rubbed in it. Maybe pushed in it.

with people like that, in my experience, they wouldn`t care anyways

We, all 31 coaches the overwhelming majority of players in this league all know what Bergeron brings to the table

 

[Bruinaura]

I saw some idiot on twitter yesterday talking about how "22 year old Point" was going to "dominate Bergeron again."

*checks notes on last night's game*

Tampa Bay Lightning at Boston Bruins Box Score — February 28, 2019 | Hockey-Reference.com

Mysteriously his tweets seem to have now disappeared.

 

[Don Cherry]

I remember when the HOF was a true honor reserved only for the truly elite. Chara, Crosby and Ovechkin are the only active players worthy, imo.

 

[Bruinaura]

The NESN Bergeron documentary wil be on NHL Network Sunday! Awesome.

 

[Don Cherry]

The NESN Bergeron documentary wil be on NHL Network Sunday! Awesome.

I saw it, it's well worth watching.

 

[TwineTickler]

I remember when the HOF was a true honor reserved only for the truly elite. Chara, Crosby and Ovechkin are the only active players worthy, imo.

Yikes

 

[TwineTickler]

How concerned are we about the "maintenance days"?

 

[Don Cherry]

How concerned are we about the "maintenance days"?

We're not. Those are simply minor injuries that we don't want to get worse. He played through some serious injuries in the past. No need for concern.

 

[Lobster57]

I remember when the HOF was a true honor reserved only for the truly elite. Chara, Crosby and Ovechkin are the only active players worthy, imo.

the HHOF has always been relatively easy to get into, compared the football and baseball, not sure about basketball.

 

[cbtitan]

I remember when the HOF was a true honor reserved only for the truly elite. Chara, Crosby and Ovechkin are the only active players worthy, imo.

I remember when the HOF was worthy enough to be alloted to Bob Gainey.
Bergeron is worth twice Gainey as an all around player.

 

[mjhfb]

Yikes

There's a kid named Patrick Kane on Chicago that's had a pretty good career.

 

[compan]

Everyone comment on this and tell this guys he's a moron.

Players Vote Patrice Bergeron As Third-Best All-Around NHL Player, P.K. Subban As Most Overrated

This was posted in the previous Bergy thread before it was closed and I feel like should be discussed more. Pretty damn cool and deserving.

You can't reason with stupid.

They said this in the thread:

""I’ll look forward to him getting in with Chris Kunitz...fewer points career-wise and fewer Selke’s, but comparable players and Kunitz had better season totals, more Stanley Cups, Olympic gold, yada yada yada.""

 

[TD Charlie]

You can't reason with stupid.

They said this in the thread:

""I’ll look forward to him getting in with Chris Kunitz...fewer points career-wise and fewer Selke’s, but comparable players and Kunitz had better season totals, more Stanley Cups, Olympic gold, yada yada yada.""

Quite possibly the worst comparison of all time. Hilariously bad. Painful to read.

 

[Bruinaura]

You can't reason with stupid.

They said this in the thread:

""I’ll look forward to him getting in with Chris Kunitz...fewer points career-wise and fewer Selke’s, but comparable players and Kunitz had better season totals, more Stanley Cups, Olympic gold, yada yada yada.""

 

[Krupp]

Just when I think I've gotten over my strong dislike of Pens fans, they give me a reason to remember it all over again.

For all of his greatness (And he IS a surefire HOF, admit ably), Crosby has never won the Selke. And why, of all people, would you compare Bergy with Kunitz when Kopitar is a way better comparison?

f***ing seriously. Hooray for some of these guys that they have lots of points. Bergeron's more than just a points player. Too bad stat-watchers wouldn't understand that at all. If the LEAGUE themselves are voting Bergeron as one of the most difficult players to play against and probably one of the very best, it f***ing says something doesn't it?

Sorry, i'm done ranting. But Bergeron IS the best defensive forward in the league today. There are definitely guys who are up there with him who can edit up stride with stride, but I have no doubts this man's winning at least five or six Selkes before he calls it a career. And that is NOT something to laugh at whatsoever. He has that on his resume as well as the Cup. He COULD win another before it's all said and done, if Sweeney, Cassidy and co. work their magic right.

Outside of the whole "Ohhh but he doesn'tscoreenough" argument, I'd be interested in seeing what real excuse somebody could use for saying that Bergeron does NOT have the look of a hall of famer on him right now.

 

[ap3lovr]

I remember when the HOF was a true honor reserved only for the truly elite. Chara, Crosby and Ovechkin are the only active players worthy, imo.

While those are generational players, I would add the following to that list as likely first ballot guys

Thornton, Malkin, Kane, Stamkos, Bergeron, Getzlaf, Kovalchuk, Keith, Karlsson, Lundqvist, and Luongo

 

[22Brad Park]

While those are generational players, I would add the following to that list as likely first ballot guys

Thornton, Malkin, Kane, Stamkos, Bergeron, Getzlaf, Kovalchuk, Keith, Karlsson, Lundqvist, and Luongo

Claude Giroux numbers pretty darn good 802 games 743 points ..If he can get another solid 5 years in he might have an outside chance.Then again Theoren Fleury has 1000 pts in 1000 games with only Cup Flames ever saw on resume yet cannot get in cause of prejudice voters.

 

[ap3lovr]

Just when I think I've gotten over my strong dislike of Pens fans, they give me a reason to remember it all over again.

For all of his greatness (And he IS a surefire HOF, admit ably), Crosby has never won the Selke. And why, of all people, would you compare Bergy with Kunitz when Kopitar is a way better comparison?

****ing seriously. Hooray for some of these guys that they have lots of points. Bergeron's more than just a points player. Too bad stat-watchers wouldn't understand that at all. If the LEAGUE themselves are voting Bergeron as one of the most difficult players to play against and probably one of the very best, it ****ing says something doesn't it?

Sorry, i'm done ranting. But Bergeron IS the best defensive forward in the league today. There are definitely guys who are up there with him who can edit up stride with stride, but I have no doubts this man's winning at least five or six Selkes before he calls it a career. And that is NOT something to laugh at whatsoever. He has that on his resume as well as the Cup. He COULD win another before it's all said and done, if Sweeney, Cassidy and co. work their magic right.

Outside of the whole "Ohhh but he doesn'tscoreenough" argument, I'd be interested in seeing what real excuse somebody could use for saying that Bergeron does NOT have the look of a hall of famer on him right now.

There is no doubt among those in the media that are voting on this that Bergeron is a first ballot guy. That 2003 entry draft was insane, and if it was redrafted today most would take Bergeron at #1 overall. Though at this point, we should be enjoying his time on the ice and not worrying about the HHOF. Hopefully a few good years left before he retires.

 

[KnightofBoston]

NHL players poll in the athletic had players rating Bergeron as 3rd in “who is the best all around player in the nhl” behind Crosby and McDavid

Pretty cool

 

[Don Cherry]

While those are generational players, I would add the following to that list as likely first ballot guys

Thornton, Malkin, Kane, Stamkos, Bergeron, Getzlaf, Kovalchuk, Keith, Karlsson, Lundqvist, and Luongo

No to Keith, Karlsson, Getzlaf, Luongo and even Bergeron. All great players, but not true elite, once-in-a-blue-moon players.