Confirmed with Link: Panthers trade Drew Shore to CGY for Corban Knight

[Android 16]

I'm not really upset at Tallon or anything. I think it's just odd that we traded Shore for yet another center who will probably never see the light of day in the NHL. Why couldn't we at least pull a winger out of this deal instead of another center?

A winger like who?

 

[batting1k]

A winger like who?

I don't know, but you can't tell me Corban Knight was the only option. It was rumored several teams were interested in Shore.

 

[Android 16]

I don't know, but you can't tell me Corban Knight was the only option. It was rumored several teams were interested in Shore.

A lot more goes into a trade than EA Sports leads you to believe.

 

[batting1k]

A lot more goes into a trade than EA Sports leads you to believe.

Are you implying you could've told us all that the Panthers would get Corban Knight for Drew Shores hours, days, or weeks before the trade occurred? He was the only option according to you.

 

[Big Bjugs]

A lot more goes into a trade than EA Sports leads you to believe.

I did our 2015 1st, Shore and Flash for Kessel. I couldn't live with that rip off, I had to exit without saving. Felt too guilty.

 

[Android 16]

Are you implying you could've told us all that the Panthers would get Corban Knight for Drew Shores hours, days, or weeks before the trade occurred? He was the only option according to you.

We'll never know what was on the table. Shore's value is subjective. It's different to every GM you speak to and it's difficult to just stick him & Fleischmann together and grab a solid winger.

 

[IM Clutcm]

I did our 2015 1st, Shore and Flash for Kessel. I couldn't live with that rip off, I had to exit without saving. Felt too guilty.

Flash's value is crazy in that game. I did a deal that was Flash, a pick, and Petrovic for Simmonds.

 

[Laus723]

I'm fine with this. Don't know what happened in the office and what Tallon tried to do, we just know he did this. Won't hurt the Rampage it looks like, and that's important.

 

[spacemanatee]

Dave Bolland was hurt for a good part of this season. If Drew Shore is so good then why didn't he get the call-up?

simple, it was cuz he couldn't get sent down again

 

[I am not exposed]

simple, it was cuz he couldn't get sent down again

But if he was that good he would have stayed up!

I think he would have been, but it was a risk Tallon wasn't willing to take.

 

[spacemanatee]

But if he was that good he would have stayed up!

where? on the bench since bolland came back?

 

[I am not exposed]

where? on the bench since bolland came back?

In place of Trocheck.

And yes, sometimes on the bench.

 

[spacemanatee]

In place of Trocheck.

And yes, sometimes on the bench.

he would possibly have gotten the call up if it wasn't for the fact that he couldn't get sent down. vinny has at least that option man.

 

[I am not exposed]

he would possibly have gotten the call up if it wasn't for the fact that he couldn't get sent down. vinny has at least that option man.

If he was good enough he would have been called up.

Yes, it was a numbers game, and him having to pass through waivers had an impact. I believe he will be good enough, but Tallon didn't take the risk for obvious reasons.

 

[spacemanatee]

If he was good enough he would have been called up.

Yes, it was a numbers game, and him having to pass through waivers had an impact. I believe he will be good enough, but Tallon didn't take the risk for obvious reasons.

but the question was why he didn't get called up when bolland got hurt. that was the reason why. tallon had to choose one of those two, they where both good in the ahl but shore got kept down cuz he was soon to be waiver eligible.

you know that. you even wrote that in the post i quoted. why are you arguing this?

 

[I am not exposed]

but the question was why he didn't get called up when bolland got hurt. that was the reason why. tallon had to choose one of those two, they where both good in the ahl but shore got kept down cuz he was soon to be waiver eligible.

you know that. you even wrote that in the post i quoted. why are you arguing this?

Gaebriel said this: "If Drew Shore is so good then why didn't he get the call-up?"

I said if he was good enough, then he would have been. But he wasn't good enough, and wasn't worth the risk for Tallon considering he had to pass through waivers.

But if he was good enough he would have been called up regardless of the waiver situation.

 

[Kevin4762]

I could definitely see Corban Knight being a kind of Manny Malhotra in the years to come. Two-way forward, face-off specialist, similar size and body. I wouldn't mind a face-off specialist on the fourth line in the years to come. Kind of how the Canadiens went from being the worst in the league in face-offs to best in the league solely because of Malhotra and subsequently adding another component to their defense.

Plus, 11 pts in 22 games isn't horrible. Who knows? Maybe he has a breakout year next season. These kinds of things happen all the time in the NHL.

 

[spacemanatee]

Gaebriel said this: "If Drew Shore is so good then why didn't he get the call-up?"

I said if he was good enough, then he would have been. But he wasn't good enough, and wasn't worth the risk for Tallon considering he had to pass through waivers.

But if he was good enough he would have been called up regardless of the waiver situation.

ok fine. and your point with this was what, that he sucks?
do you really think he should have been "good enough" to push barkov, bjugstad, mr5point5, and macK down the depth chart?

c'mon. when the call-up was needed it was between trocheck & shore. vinny got the call cuz he wasn't waiver eligible. simple

 

[SoupyFIN]

c'mon. when the call-up was needed it was between trocheck & shore. vinny got the call cuz he wasn't waiver eligible. simple

But one could argue now that Trocheck has stayed up for over two months and it's not looking likely that he'll be sent back down, that Shore might as well have been chosen since he would have stayed up and avoided waivers.

Obviously it's now easy to say this in hindsight, no one knew how long Trocheck would stay up back at the start of November.

 

[spacemanatee]

But one could argue now that Trocheck has stayed up for over two months and it's not looking likely that he'll be sent back down, that Shore might as well have been chosen since he would have stayed up and avoided waivers.

Obviously it's now easy to say this in hindsight, no one knew how long Trocheck would stay up back at the start of November.

no of course.

but the word "likely" that plays a huge part here. if we we're to have multiple injuries on D and we had to send one forward down to SA it would probably be vinny (dunno if pirri is waiver eligible) who gets sent down without any problems.
if it was shore who was gonna get sent down tallon would be in a tricky situation.

we also have no idea how shore would do in the nhl this season. this is all pure fictional speculation really.. one can bend scenarios to help their own cause in many ways (which i've done also ).

what's done is done. shore for knight, it's cool. i think shore is the better player with the higher upside but he's in a awful situation here and we got a capable call-in C.

 

[Kevin4762]

I just don't get why Tallon felt that he had to trade Shore. Couldn't he have just extended his contract to $2 million for two years or something like that and just alternate him with Bolland or MacKenzie next year? If Shore had gotten hot somewhere down the road and starting racking up points next year then we could have just sent down MacKenzie or something. I don't know if MacKenzie has a one-way or two-way contract since capgeek is gone but I can't imagine that paying a player like him $1.3 million to play in the minors is such a big deal. Don't get me wrong, I like MacKenzie but I would have just preferred to see Shore play as a Panther. He busted his ass for us back in 2012-2013 and we traded him away for practically nothing.

I feel a bit cheated that Shore wasn't even given a chance with this new squad. I could definitely see him getting some serious ice time next year but now we don't even have the chance to see him turn into a potential stud. I don't think Trocheck and Shore were that different and I feel that Shore could have been just as valuable to this team as him.

If all else failed, we could have just moved Trocheck to the wing or something. Big mistake Tallon. I guess for every couple of good signings/trades there's at least one bad one.

 

[IM Clutcm]

I just don't get why Tallon felt that he had to trade Shore. Couldn't he have just extended his contract to $2 million for two years or something like that and just alternate him with Bolland or MacKenzie next year? If Shore had gotten hot somewhere down the road and starting racking up points next year then we could have just sent down MacKenzie or something. I don't know if MacKenzie has a one-way or two-way contract since capgeek is gone but I can't imagine that paying a player like him $1.3 million to play in the minors is such a big deal. Don't get me wrong, I like MacKenzie but I would have just preferred to see Shore play as a Panther. He busted his ass for us back in 2012-2013 and we traded him away for practically nothing.

I feel a bit cheated that Shore wasn't even given a chance with this new squad. I could definitely see him getting some serious ice time next year but now we don't even have the chance to see him turn into a potential stud. I don't think Trocheck and Shore were that different and I feel that Shore could have been just as valuable to this team as him.

If all else failed, we could have just moved Trocheck to the wing or something. Big mistake Tallon. I guess for every couple of good signings/trades there's at least one bad one.

It's a one-way and he'd be claimed on waivers.

 

[Kevin4762]

It's a one-way and he'd be claimed on waivers.

I would have taken the risk.

 

[spacemanatee]

I would have taken the risk.

mackenzie is awesome. no offense but i think you're the only one who'd be willing to risk losing him.

 

[Kevin4762]

mackenzie is awesome. no offense but i think you're the only one who'd be willing to risk losing him.

I don't think so. If Shore turns out to be another Trocheck than you'd be dumb not to take Shore over Mac. Trocheck has 13 pts in 27 games while Mac has 6 pts in 39 games.