Rumor: Panarin unwilling to re-sign?

[CBJWerenski8]

I think it will be a first and top prospect if they wait until the deadline. Of course it will be a late first so the prospect will be key.

The biggest problem with waiting until the deadline is if the team is still in it how do you explain "selling" your top player to your fanbase and locker room. Perhaps the answer is you both buy and sell.

Different situation since Panarin is much better than both of these guys were at the time, but a MSL for Callahan deal like a few deadlines ago is something that could happen.

 

[CBJx614]

Huberdeau or Trocheck from FLA



Toffoli + Vilardi would be a good start.

Those players likely aren't available at the TDL though. If LA is pushing or in a playoff spot Toffoli won't be available and it's possible Vilardi plays well enough that he's no longer available.

 

[MAHJ71]

Those players likely aren't available at the TDL though. If LA is pushing or in a playoff spot Toffoli won't be available and it's possible Vilardi plays well enough that he's no longer available.

Correct. I'm not even considering waiting until the TDL.

I'm 100% in before/during camp or we've re-signed him. I don't want to even think about the poop show it'll be hanging onto him throughout the season only to trade him during the middle of what is probably a playoff race.

 

[Crede777]

Correct. I'm not even considering waiting until the TDL.

I'm 100% in before/during camp or we've re-signed him. I don't want to even think about the poop show it'll be hanging onto him throughout the season only to trade him during the middle of what is probably a playoff race.

Apparently all Jarmo is getting as offers are picks and prospects.

 

[DJA]

Apparently all Jarmo is getting as offers are picks and prospects.

That likely won’t change at the TDL.

 

[major major]

Those players likely aren't available at the TDL though. If LA is pushing or in a playoff spot Toffoli won't be available and it's possible Vilardi plays well enough that he's no longer available.

From the sounds of it Huberdeau or Trocheck isn't an option now either. Vilardi is also probably not on offer.

If Trocheck is available now I'd happily add to get him. But I'm presuming the returns aren't good enough to justify trading Panarin this summer, especially when it seems like there is at least a decent (>15%) chance he can be signed later.

 

[EspenK]

I think if you trade him sooner rather than later to a team that can re-sign him then I think you get much more in return. Now that we landed Riley Nash I'm not sure Kevin Hayes is as attractive a piece but I still think him + Buchnevich + Kravstov would be a great return.
ROR + a 1st would wotk for me.
Some combo of Huberdau or Trochek ++
No idea if the other teams would do these deals but Panarin is a very good player.

 

[punk_o_holic]

I think if you trade him sooner rather than later to a team that can re-sign him then I think you get much more in return. Now that we landed Riley Nash I'm not sure Kevin Hayes is as attractive a piece but I still think him + Buchnevich + Kravstov would be a great return.
ROR + a 1st would wotk for me.
Some combo of Huberdau or Trochek ++
No idea if the other teams would do these deals but Panarin is a very good player.

Scratch ROR. Traded to the Blues. Even if he wasn't, can't see the Sabres trading him for a rental.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

If it is all about location, you just need to find 2 teams where he will sign long term and that want to deal and you should get a decent return. Better to trade him this Summer as you don't want the trade partners to get into a position where the trade no longer makes sense for them. Also, the fan base will understand making the deal now. It will be much tougher to do at the deadline if you are in the playoff race and with the number of teams that make the playoffs that is likely.

 

[punk_o_holic]

If the Kings are still interested and offering Toffoli/Pearson, Muzzin. Maybe a pick. Should be considered. I know we don't need Muzzin but is he supposed to be good? If he is, trade him to a team that needs D. Can he get Kadri? Leafs set up front but still needs D.
Toffoli/Pearson, Kadri, pick might be the best they could get.

 

[Crede777]

Also, the fan base will understand making the deal now.

I don't know. I think missing the playoffs this year would be pretty killer and the front office knows it.

I think the CBJ have no actual choice but to keep trudging forward and hope that Panarin changes his mind.

 

[CBJx614]

I don't know. I think missing the playoffs this year would be pretty killer and the front office knows it.

I think the CBJ have no actual choice but to keep trudging forward and hope that Panarin changes his mind.

Like someone else said, I think we'll have a pretty good idea after Jarmo comes back...


And then the long stretch until camp..

 

[blahblah]

I think most of the league will view a trade for Panarin as a high risk to be a one year rental at this point.

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

Panarin to LA for Carter. Riley Nash has to fly to LA to find Carter and convince him to come to Columbus. Jackets trade Carter to Pitt for JJ.

 

[MAHJ71]

I think most of the league will view a trade for Panarin as a high risk to be a one year rental at this point.

IF he’s traded I’m willing to bet it’s to a team that has an extension lined up. Hence CBJ getting the value some of us have been discussing.

So For Me: the whole rental thing is like the TDL scenario. Simply not considering it because if it goes that way it’s going to be a sad sad day in Columbus, just like it was for the Isles today.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Had to ask Kekalainen whether Tavares’ decision Sunday would prompt him and the front office to re-examine how they’ll handle Panarin over the next 12 months should nothing change. He said: “No, no. It doesn’t change anything. We have our own plan. Every team has their own. (Islanders GM) Lou Lamoriello wasn’t GM with the (Isles) during the whole year. They made a decision. That’s their captain. I have respect for people who make those decisions. I’ll never criticize anybody in a situation like that for what they did.” Kekalainen has listened to trade offers, but he’s hoping Panarin will change his mind and decide to negotiate. Kekalainen and Panarin will meet next month in Europe, and both Kekalainen and Panarin’s agent, Daniel Milstein, have said they expect Panarin to be with the Blue Jackets at the start of the 2018-19 season.

Blue Jackets help ease center concerns with Riley Nash...

 

[EspenK]

If Panarin doesn't want to sign trade him to Buffalo for their 3#1's and their 2nd. That would give the Jackets potentially 4, but more realistically 2, chances to win the Hughes lottery.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Let's try to keep the Cole and Nash talk out of the Panarin thread, ok guys?

 

[Crede777]

Surprise, the Islanders losing Tavares has no effect on how the Jackets handle Panarin. Just like how if he had re-signed it would have had no effect.

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

You know what pisses me off about Panarin? We were in Edmonton and he wouldn't sign a CBJ helmet for my kid that half of the team had already signed. My son had on CBJ hat, jersey, sweat pants and shoes. My kid holds the helmet out and Panarin looks at him and shakes his head no and walks off. We flew all the way across the country to see these guys play and that is how he sees his fans. This is what the CBJ front office is working with. He is a hell of a player but he is an ass.

 

[Monk]

You know what pisses me off about Panarin? We were in Edmonton and he wouldn't sign a CBJ helmet for my kid that half of the team had already signed. My son had on CBJ hat, jersey, sweat pants and shoes. My kid holds the helmet out and Panarin looks at him and shakes his head no and walks off. We flew all the way across the country to see these guys play and that is how he sees his fans. This is what the CBJ front office is working with. He is a hell of a player but he is an ass.

Meh. That sucks, but people have bad days. Maybe he just got some terrible personal news. Maybe Torts just ripped him a new a-hole.

These are humans and I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt in these cases.

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

Meh. That sucks, but people have bad days. Maybe he just got some terrible personal news. Maybe Torts just ripped him a new a-hole.

These are humans and I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt in these cases.

I would like to think so but the "pro" autograph seekers said that Panarin never signs for anyone. I understand not signing for those guys but they said he won't sign for his own fans.

 

[Monk]

I would like to think so but the "pro" autograph seekers said that Panarin never signs for anyone. I understand not signing for those guys but they said he won't sign for his own fans.

I'm... still OK with that. Must be really f***ing awful to constantly be hounded by folks when you're in public. I would probably do the exact same thing.

 

[MAHJ71]

You know what pisses me off about Panarin? We were in Edmonton and he wouldn't sign a CBJ helmet for my kid that half of the team had already signed. My son had on CBJ hat, jersey, sweat pants and shoes. My kid holds the helmet out and Panarin looks at him and shakes his head no and walks off. We flew all the way across the country to see these guys play and that is how he sees his fans. This is what the CBJ front office is working with. He is a hell of a player but he is an ass.

Interesting story.

I've seen him give out his actual game stick to fans during warmups.

Personally, a friend of mine has a 10 year old son, who had the idea to hold up a small sign behind the bench at a home game -- that read "could i please have your stick after the game" in Russian -- Panarin came up after the game with his actual game stick and made sure the kid got it, despite several others having their arms reached out.

Either way, I'm sure every player has their reasons for when they don't sign or give something out.. and thats their right.

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

Interesting story.

I've seen him give out his actual game stick to fans during warmups.

Personally, a friend of mine has a 10 year old son, who had the idea to hold up a small sign behind the bench at a home game -- that read "could i please have your stick after the game" in Russian -- Panarin came up after the game with his actual game stick and made sure the kid got it, despite several others having their arms reached out.

Either way, I'm sure every player has their reasons for when they don't sign or give something out.. and thats their right.

Apparently he is ok with taking pictures, he just won't do autographs. I understand when approached by the pro seekers, but when you have one kid in your team's garb from head to toe, you need to make an exception. There was nobody else there.

It is absolutely their right to sign or not sign, but I think it does say something about you when you don't in a situation like that. After all these guys are not Lebron. They are not hounded like big time celebrities.

Of course these guys are just guys, who are in the spotlight and under a lot of pressure. Trust me if everything that I did was analyzed, then I would have people coming after me left and right. But I do think its relevant to show where his head might be. If its a one time event then no big deal, if its a pattern then it is relevant.