Panarin/Kuznetsov/Tarasenko vs Landeskog/Pettersson/Zibanejad

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Kuznetsov being ranked over Pettersson is absolutely laughable.

Pettersson is at the tender age of 22 scored at a higher rate and yielded MILES better two/way results. It’s not even remotely close.

There have only been 4 more productive playoff runs than Kuznetsovs 17/18 in the last 25 years. Let me know when Pettersson reaches that level.

 

[Randyne]

	GP	G	A	P	+/-
The Swedes	1328	431	549	980	30
The Russians	1382	484	752	1236	236

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[Gurglesons]

I honestly can't figure out why a guy pacing 60 goals last year is considered a scrub on this board. Sure, he won't repeat that pace but the guy is a great player and was very close to Panarin last year who gets a lot of love here. He ws 1B to Panarin's 1A, yet you'd think he was a scrub despite Panarin getting his due here. It just makes no f***ing sense. He's always been viewed as a scrub and it's like this board just won't admit he's a good player. I don't know what the guy has to do to get his due.

Did I say he was a scrub?

 

[Gurglesons]

The f***. Is this bait...?

He's at worst the 3rd best player in this group...Definitely a better player than Kuznetosv and Tarasenko. And as a Ranger fan I think he's more valuable than PAnarin.

I'm not sure he is better than Kuznetsov and Tarasenko.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Did I say he was a scrub?

Relatively speaking, you implied it.

 

[Gurglesons]

Relatively speaking, you implied it.

Tarasenko has been top five in goals 3 times and Kuznetsov has been top ten in points.

That is why I take them over Zibby who has one year of being in the top five of goals.

I mean, look at your username.

 

[Regal]

There have only been 4 more productive playoff runs than Kuznetsovs 17/18 in the last 25 years. Let me know when Pettersson reaches that level.

And since then he's had 2 mediocre regular seasons.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

And since then he's had 2 mediocre regular seasons.

OK let's say 72pts is mediocre. I don't remember Pettersson ever hitting 70pts. Either way it still doesn't change my point that Pettersson has never reached that level. And yes it's not the NHL, but even in WJC Kuznetsov is a 2x 1st AST, MVP, best forward and made the all decade team. So he has proven more than once on the biggest stages he can be the best. Pettersson hasn't done that. Don't get me wrong, I think he will be 1 of the best players in the world for awhile, he just hasn't done it yet. Kuznetsov has proven he can.

 

[Regal]

OK let's say 72pts is mediocre. I don't remember Pettersson ever hitting 70pts. Either way it still doesn't change my point that Pettersson has never reached that level. And yes it's not the NHL, but even in WJC Kuznetsov is a 2x 1st AST, MVP, best forward and made the all decade team. So he has proven more than once on the biggest stages he can be the best. Pettersson hasn't done that. Don't get me wrong, I think he will be 1 of the best players in the world for awhile, he just hasn't done it yet. Kuznetsov has proven he can.

Mediocre in comparison. And let's not make these "haven't seen Pettersson hit 70" comments to pretend as if there's a big gap. Kuznetsov scored 6 more points in 5 more games than a rookie Pettersson, while having fewer goals and primary points, despite playing on a much better team with better linemates. Pettersson then had 14 more points in 5 more games last year. Kuznetsov is also one of the worst defensive centers in the league. The question is asking who would you take now. Pettersson has been better in the time he's been in the league and while Kuznetsov's run in '18 was impressive, hanging your hat on a 24 game sample from 2 and a half years ago that he's never replicated before or since despite being in the league for 6 seasons is a bit of a stretch.

 

[Gurglesons]

Mediocre in comparison. And let's not make these "haven't seen Pettersson hit 70" comments to pretend as if there's a big gap. Kuznetsov scored 6 more points in 5 more games than a rookie Pettersson, while having fewer goals and primary points, despite playing on a much better team with better linemates. Pettersson then had 14 more points in 5 more games last year. Kuznetsov is also one of the worst defensive centers in the league. The question is asking who would you take now. Pettersson has been better in the time he's been in the league and while Kuznetsov's run in '18 was impressive, hanging your hat on a 24 game sample from 2 and a half years ago that he's never replicated before or since despite being in the league for 6 seasons is a bit of a stretch.

I have Petts over Kuzy, but Panarin and Tank over Landeskog and Zibby.

 

[Regal]

I have Petts over Kuzy, but Panarin and Tank over Landeskog and Zibby.

I agree as long as Tank comes back reasonably close to where he left off and depending on how much Zibanejad regresses.