Value of: Outside opinion on Kadri

[rhef3]

With the addition of Tavares, the leafs appear to be fairly stacked on their center depth and as most of you already have read trade proposals from random leaf fans looking for defensive help, you read about trouba, paryako and other top defenseman.... A nice endless cycle, but realistically what would a player like Kadri fetch ?

If you ask me I think toronto needs to be calling up the canes being they have pretty good depth on defense and could use some center help so kadri to carolina as an outside fan looks like a good fit.

Help the leaf fans with an actual fair value assessment with their players and let's find them a defenseman that would be available for someone like kadri.
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[jasonleaffan]

He's not being traded.

 

[Brock Radunske]

He's not being traded.

 

[shortfuze]

They really don’t have depth at centre. Outside those 3 they really don’t have anyone to step in. This pars Lindholm might pan out but if he doesn’t who else can step in and play.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Leafs center depth after JT/Matthews if Kadri is traded:

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[Riptide]

Kadri is somewhere between a 1B and a 2A center... who's young(ish) and on an amazing contract. Pretty sure that if Toronto was really willing to move him (even for a quality D), that they wouldn't have a hard time doing so. Given that their center depth isn't that great outside of an amazing top 3 (aka no 3C replacement), I don't see Toronto being all that willing to move Kadri. Their fans, maybe. But after watching Pittsburgh win back to back cups based largely on quality centers/forwards with a subpar blueline, I don't think their management agree's that they need to move a C for a high end RD.

 

[Baksfamous112]

He’s on the decline. Might as well get a late 1st + B prospect now while you can

 

[Jerts]

As I'm functionally literate and was able to read the OP....

I think he has pluses and minuses...

He is a very good 2c. A very responsible 2 way center.
He is also not very likable and makes some incredibly stupid plays. This hurts his value.

Overall I value him as an average 2c.

 

[Taytro]

Outside opinion: Leafs do not trade Kadri if their life depends on it. He is capable of playing a hard minutes shut down role while still producing and they need to exploit the hell out of that to help give Tavares/Matthews better match ups.

Kadri should be around for a long time and I think Leaf fans will agree.

 

[BAM]

They really don’t have depth at centre. Outside those 3 they really don’t have anyone to step in. This pars Lindholm might pan out but if he doesn’t who else can step in and play.

LOL if you take away any teams top 3 centers you could say they don't have much else to step in, not exactly ground-breaking

But even in the case where they need someone to fill in at C, Nylander can step in

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Nah, Kadri is amazing.

 

[Liferleafer]

Call up the Canes? I can picture how that would go on here....we'd need to add a 1st to "maybe" have a shot at Faulk.

 

[Randy Randerson]

I think Shanahan & co realized that cup winning teams are often built through the middle of the ice and think they're in a cap position to have 3 very good ones for the next 4 years. Tavares doesn't make Kadri expendable, he makes the Leafs' center position the thing that should carry them to contention and the time limit on that is cap trouble, which probably starts with the Matthews/Marner/Nylander signings but the first wave of noticeable casualties will be when Kadri & Rielly need new deals.

I think there's too much stress put on icing a balanced team by HF. The Leafs have a huge hole at top pairing RHD, but that's really the only hole on the roster and it looks like we're covering that up in the short term by adding strength in other positions. It's hard to find a team that couldn't use a big improvement somewhere, so for now I think the Leafs roll with what they have until they can find the piece they need by trade, free agency or development

 

[Dzonna]

Don’t think they will trade Kadri either, but if they did, they could do some patch work. I think OP was just hypothetically asking what player in return is a fair value.

 

[Placid Perspicuity]

He’s on the decline. Might as well get a late 1st + B prospect now while you can

You're in more Leaf threads than Leaf fans.

It's OK to be worried. Just don't make it so obvious. It makes you look desperate.

 

[Tripod]

They will keep him and make other teams try and figure out the matchups issues that will face them. They are not trading away that advantage they have over almost every other team.

 

[slimbob8]

He’s on the decline. Might as well get a late 1st + B prospect now while you can

Give it a rest dude. Didn't you get embarrassed enough in the Kadri/Trouba thread?

 

[mattydamon]

He's a good 2C - IMO Leafs should keep him as strength down the center is a rare thing and something you want to take advantage of.

I think best bet would be Nylander in a 1 for 1 swap with a young up and coming RD as I feel like a winger would be easier to replace than a match up C, and you would probably get a better return.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Call up the Canes? I can picture how that would go on here....we'd need to add a 1st to "maybe" have a shot at Faulk.

C'mon. Most here would be thrilled with Kadri for Faulk and would be unenthusiastically accepting of Kadri for Pesce.

It's the Kapanen/Brown++ stuff that gets ridiculed.

 

[rhef3]

I agree that they should keep him, but you tend to see his name pop up as if he is available, It's hard to gauge proper value, but I guess I was wrong in assuming kadri would be available via trade, Not many teams will give up a good defenseman for a winger granted hall was traded but outside of that kadri holds value as a center and has good value at that (great contract for 30+ goals). I'm just trying to find a dancing partner for the leafs to end this quest of finding a quality defenseman for what they "might be" willing to give up, And as an outsider looking in kadri bumping down to the 3rd line one would assume it might be a good idea to shop him considering he is coming off back to back 30 goal seasons.

 

[rhef3]

C'mon. Most here would be thrilled with Kadri for Faulk and would be unenthusiastically accepting of Kadri for Pesce.

It's the Kapanen/Brown++ stuff that gets ridiculed.

I agree I believe Kadri for Faulk is a solid deal

 

[RibFrabcus]

Call up the Canes? I can picture how that would go on here....we'd need to add a 1st to "maybe" have a shot at Faulk.

Kadri for Faulk I'd do right now. No picks from your end. If anything I value Kadri higher.

 

[Brock Radunske]

I agree I believe Kadri for Faulk is a solid deal

Absolutely not. Faulk is the last thing Toronto needs.
Pesce is worth a discussion

 

[Brock Radunske]

You're in more Leaf threads than Leaf fans.

It's OK to be worried. Just don't make it so obvious. It makes you look desperate.

I would have chosen "pathetic" but "desperate" works, too.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Won’t be traded, I’ll tell holy that. Very good player. Good goal scorer. My honest opinion however is that I feel like he isn’t the player he could be. When I look at his skills I see more of a 75 point player than the 50 point player.