HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: 2024 Playoff Edition

[Tyson]

If my aunt had wheels, she’d be a bycicle.

Agreed. Had the Habs truly vetted this kid's character they would have passed on him.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Classic.

Sounds like something you would read on LinkedIn.

6’4 207lb Zacha: 0 playoff goals in 22 career games

We should trade our little dwarf named Caufield for him, you can't pass on that size.

 

[Runner77]

Agreed. Had the Habs truly vetted this kid's character they would have passed on him.

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[The Real Timo]

Agreed. Had the Habs truly vetted this kid's character they would have passed on him.

He doesn't have karakter. Imagine we could have had Tkachuk. Sigh. Bergevin is truly a moron.

 

[Miller Time]

Agreed. Had the Habs truly vetted this kid's character they would have passed on him.

That's a tough point to argue imo given what we know about how brutal he was handled from draft to leaving Montreal.

Character is more fluid than it appears at the surface. Especially in the formative kate teen years.

Draft profiles about the player suggested a determined, hard working, end to end committed athlete.

The habits and behaviors that got him to his draft year may well have shifted for the worse in the years following... While easy to frame that as evidence of avoidable or predictable character flaw, I think the reality is that environment plays a huge role in dialing up, or dialing down many of those traits.

It's ultimately on him, , as he's accountable to his actions & attitude. But it may well be that he was displaying high character traits pre-draft, and "something" (in this case, a few years in the BargainBin karacter building club) enabled or encouraged the development of worse traits that became the habits we see today.

Either way, the guy is not making the most of his potential and is running out of time to get his career back on track

 

[The Real Timo]

That's a tough point to argue imo given what we know about how brutal he was handled from draft to leaving Montreal.

Character is more fluid than it appears at the surface. Especially in the formative kate teen years.

Draft profiles about the player suggested a determined, hard working, end to end committed athlete.

The habits and behaviors that got him to his draft year may well have shifted for the worse in the years following... While easy to frame that as evidence of avoidable or predictable character flaw, I think the reality is that environment plays a huge role in dialing up, or dialing down many of those traits.

It's ultimately on him, , as he's accountable to his actions & attitude. But it may well be that he was displaying high character traits pre-draft, and "something" (in this case, a few years in the BargainBin karacter building club) enabled or encouraged the development of worse traits that became the habits we see today.

Either way, the guy is not making the most of his potential and is running out of time to get his career back on track

Damn man. That’s well written.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If my aunt had wheels, she’d be a bicycle.

Many things can be true at the same time.

Not sure about the bicycle though.

 

[The Real Timo]

Many things can be true at the same time.

Not sure about the bicycle though.

And it’s 2024. Your aunt CAN be your uncle.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

That's a tough point to argue imo given what we know about how brutal he was handled from draft to leaving Montreal.

Character is more fluid than it appears at the surface. Especially in the formative kate teen years.

Draft profiles about the player suggested a determined, hard working, end to end committed athlete.

The habits and behaviors that got him to his draft year may well have shifted for the worse in the years following... While easy to frame that as evidence of avoidable or predictable character flaw, I think the reality is that environment plays a huge role in dialing up, or dialing down many of those traits.

It's ultimately on him, , as he's accountable to his actions & attitude. But it may well be that he was displaying high character traits pre-draft, and "something" (in this case, a few years in the BargainBin karacter building club) enabled or encouraged the development of worse traits that became the habits we see today.

Either way, the guy is not making the most of his potential and is running out of time to get his career back on track

Yep. When he came up he looked great. Then we inexplicably benched him and declared that he was tired. Julien then limited his minutes and he never seems confident again.

So it leads to all kinds of questions. WHY did they bench him? Maybe there’s a reason we don’t know. But from the outside looking in it didn’t make sense.

DD became coach and seemed to play him when he first got here. Then… same thing.

That regime seemed to like to play games with its top picks. Same thing happened to Galchenyuk and that one really didn’t make sense. Unlike Galchenyuk though, KK never displayed the ability to rack up points. Moreover he never had Chuck’s injury problems later on. And he wound up on a really good team. He should’ve been able to produce over there.

Not sure what his problem is. Maybe he’s a head case, maybe uncoachable… and I don’t think we did him any favours. Many things can be true at once.

What’s clear as day though is that we drafted the wrong guy. Tkachuk would’ve succeeded. His style of play would’ve been a lot more compatible with Julien and he’s been flat out awesome in Ottawa.

 

[Heffyhoof]

If my aunt had wheels, she’d be a bicycle.

 

[DAChampion]

Agreed. Had the Habs truly vetted this kid's character they would have passed on him.

It's not that easy to gauge the character of 17 year olds.

 

[Runner77]

Many things can be true at the same time.

Not sure about the bicycle though.

I chose this over the more graphic version that turns an aunt into an uncle.

 

[Habnot]

Yep. When he came up he looked great. Then we inexplicably benched him and declared that he was tired. Julien then limited his minutes and he never seems confident again.

So it leads to all kinds of questions. WHY did they bench him? Maybe there’s a reason we don’t know. But from the outside looking in it didn’t make sense.

DD became coach and seemed to play him when he first got here. Then… same thing.

That regime seemed to like to play games with its top picks. Same thing happened to Galchenyuk and that one really didn’t make sense. Unlike Galchenyuk though, KK never displayed the ability to rack up points. Moreover he never had Chuck’s injury problems later on. And he wound up on a really good team. He should’ve been able to produce over there.

Not sure what his problem is. Maybe he’s a head case, maybe uncoachable… and I don’t think we did him any favours. Many things can be true at once.

What’s clear as day though is that we drafted the wrong guy. Tkachuk would’ve succeeded. His style of play would’ve been a lot more compatible with Julien and he’s been flat out awesome in Ottawa.

There has been lots written about KK's commitment (or lack thereof) to get better in the off seasons.

That being said, I blame the previous regime in not providing all the young players with all the help to aid in their development. Bergevin used to always say it's up to the player.....what a dumbass

 

[CharleyHorse]

Many things can be true at the same time.

Not sure about the bicycle though.

agree. without at least knowing how many wheels @Runner77 's aunt would have, it's difficult to speculate what she could be - I mean, is a tractor a possibility? the Leafs' 18-wheeler? a conundrum in deed.

 

[red devil]

 

[Leto]

Tuning in for the BOS-FLO game. Let's see what the Broons will do in response to Bennett's sucker punch.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Get that piece of crap Bennett.

2 Panthers pounded already. Keep hammering those dog shits.

 

[Runner77]

It’s all about the need to “tenderize” an opponent, as per Biznasty.

Jeez, any marination involved? Dry rub?

So basically, your opponent is just a piece of meat whose carcass can interfere with the tenderizing process.

 

[McGees]

Refs have lost control of this series and ya he’s a rat but that was a dirty sucker punch on Marchand

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Another dive by the piece of shit Lundell.

 

[Andrei79]

Man what a pass by Lundell.

 

[the valiant effort]

Maroon in 2024. ****in disgrace

 

[Runner77]

Refs have lost control of this series and ya he’s a rat but that was a dirty sucker punch on Marchand

Bennett’s sucker punch is nothing compared to the laundry list of dirty deeds Marchand has gotten away with over his career. This one goes in the deserved retribution category.

 

[Andrei79]

Bennett’s sucker punch is nothing compared to the laundry list of dirty deeds Marchand has gotten away with over his career. This one goes in the deserved retribution category.

Cant lie, I cheered hard when I saw the angle that showed it was deliberate. Good job Bennett.

 

[the valiant effort]

That was a thing of beauty by Pesto