Pre-Game Talk: Ottawa @ Vancouver Tuesday Oct. 25 10:00 pm

[Back in Black]

Here we go on our 3 game Western Canada Road trip all on TSN5!

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[ChelFan31]

Man they gotta get this Chabot issue resolved. Can't have him simply sitting around. Hes not going to develop this way.

Why is it that Management can never learn from their mistakes and finally not rush their prospects into the Nhl, when clearly they're not ready. They need to stop trying to force feed the kid into the lineup and instead send him back.

I saw this from a mile away too. Ever since Randy Lee put pressure on Chabot to improve his play drastically from Dev camp, and called him out publicly, it was a sign that they had his name penciled in the lineup. This is why we would have been better off hiring an outside GM. This management group simply rushes our prospects, and deteriorates from their true long term potential. Such a short minded mentality.

FFS. Wake up Eugene. Bring someone in to supervise/ govern this Management group. Can we pls get a Julien Briesbois in a President of Hockey Ops role. Let Dorion report to him.

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

Man they gotta get this Chabot issue resolved. Can't have him simply sitting around. Hes not going to develop this way.

Why is it that Management can never learn from their mistakes and finally not rush their prospects into the Nhl, when clearly they're not ready. They need to stop trying to force feed the kid into the lineup and instead send him back.

I saw this from a mile away too. Ever since Randy Lee put pressure on Chabot to improve his play drastically from Dev camp, and called him out publicly, it was a sign that they had his name penciled in the lineup. This is why we would have been better off hiring an outside GM. This management group simply rushes our prospects, and deteriorates from their true long term potential. Such a short minded mentality.

FFS. Wake up Eugene. Bring someone in to supervise/ govern this Management group. Can we pls get a Julien Briesbois in a President of Hockey Ops role. Let Dorion report to him.

FWIW, Boucher said something to the effect of he's not going to throw Chabot in, which makes us worse, to simply ease him into the NHL. He is here to win hockey games.

I heard this on the radio this morning, unfortunately I don't have a link.

So ya, it's an upper management thing keeping him here.

On topic, I like late games. I don't go to bed until late anyway.

 

[ChelFan31]

FWIW, Boucher said something to the effect of he's not going to throw Chabot in, which makes us worse, to simply ease him into the NHL. He is here to win hockey games.

I heard this on the radio this morning, unfortunately I don't have a link.

So ya, it's an upper management thing keeping him here.

clearly. Probably also the reason they didn't sign that #5 defenceman in the offseason as they ALREADY allocated that roster spot to Chabot.

This management team never disappoints in overvaluing their own prospects. Do they ever learn???

 

[HSF]

stop overreacting and being dramatic.

Chabot will probably be up here for his 9 game stint to give him an idea about the speed of the NHL then eventually sent back down to the minors to continue development

 

[Larionov]

I suspect that Chabot will be sent back eventually, which is happy news for Team Canada for the World Juniors. As referenced above, the club probably thinks that this is a useful apprenticeship for him, and that it really doesn't matter much if he misses the first month or so of a junior season where he will dominate anyway. It's such a shame that they can't send almost-ready 19 year old prospects to the AHL - to me, that's a hole in the CBA that they need to fix.

As for the game against the Canucks, this is a game we can and should win - no excuses. The Canucks have a popgun offense and are now showing signs of returning to earth after their better than expected start. Hopefully they play Miller, who like Craig Anderson is now starting to show definite signs of aging. Markstrom is a better goalie now, and hopefully we can light up Miller one more time before the Canucks figure out who their starter should be.

 

[topshelf15]

Our forwards need to step up ,and dominate .The loses we have had are not all on the goaltending and the defense

 

[Back in Black]

Man they gotta get this Chabot issue resolved. Can't have him simply sitting around. He's not going to develop this way.

Ya, sorry, I gotta agree with the other reply's to your statement. He's here for 9 games, and there is no rush to throw him in at all. He's developing other ways by seeing the speed up close and being in all their practices. He'll get plenty of time to develop the rest of the year, once they send him down.

11 Hours to go!

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

11 Hours to go!

Game is tomorrow.

 

[HavlatMach9]

Man they gotta get this Chabot issue resolved. Can't have him simply sitting around. Hes not going to develop this way

i think he'll benefit quite a bit in practice having to play against strong players and a fast pace. If you see progress at practice, then give him play time and otherwise send him back.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

IMO Boucher / Dorion are under pressure to win now.. with some of the issues we've seen with the team's D zone play among other things I do not believe Boucher believes Chabot to be part of the immediate solution. I think they will try to stay patient and look for spots to plug him in but there is no doubt in my mind he will be sent back.

IMO its hard to try to bring a rookie D into and give them minutes when there is so little stability around them to coach them up.

 

[Back in Black]

Game is tomorrow.

DOH! I'm not too anxious!!!!

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

We need a better showing from the top 6 tomorrow. When Tom Pyatt's been your best forward at the 5 game mark something is not right. I don't know if Stone is nursing something, but Hoffman, Ryan and Brassard have barely done anything so far and they need to step it up.

 

[Samboni]

We need a better showing from the top 6 tomorrow. When Tom Pyatt's been your best forward at the 5 game mark something is not right. I don't know if Stone is nursing something, but Hoffman, Ryan and Brassard have barely done anything so far and they need to step it up.

I dunno, it's like they haven’t figured out Boucher's system. They aren't gelling like we hoped.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

I dunno, it's like they haven’t figured out Boucher's system. They aren't gelling like we hoped.

I'm not panicking yet, I'm going to listen to Boucher when he says it'll take a while before the team is fully adjusted to the system. I'd still like to see more out of the top 6 however, our highest payed players need to be contributing more than they are, and it's going to be tough to win games when most of our scoring is coming from our bottom 6.

 

[Senacus Maximus]

I'll be at this game in the lower bowl behind the benches. Hoping for a good effort!

Never spent so much on a game before, I usually sit nosebleeds haha. The Sens only come to Vancouver once a year so gotta make it count.

 

[Micklebot]

I dunno, it's like they haven’t figured out Boucher's system. They aren't gelling like we hoped.

It's been 5 games.

Cooper was 5-8-3 in his first 16 games as an NHL coach with Tbay which was actually a worse record than Boucher despite getting a competent goalie pretty much right off the bat, and went on to bring tbay to a 101 pts season the very next year. Takes time to get teams playing your system.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Canucks looked gassed last night and have had a busier schedule. Need to take advantage.

 

[starling]

I thought Canucks were supposed to be bad this year. What's going on there?

 

[bert]

Anyone know what the lines are looking like today in practice?

 

[HousePerseus]

Anyone know what the lines are looking like today in practice?

dzingel-brass-ryan
smith-pageau-stone
hoffman-turris-pyatt
puempel-kelly-neil

d stays the same

 

[bert]

dzingel-brass-ryan
smith-pageau-stone
hoffman-turris-pyatt
puempel-kelly-neil

d stays the same

I like it.

 

[HousePerseus]

I like it.

I do to. wouldnt mind flipping pyatt and peumpel. But at the same time pyatt has been great, tough to move him down for someone who has done nothing this year.

 

[Cosmix]

IMO Boucher / Dorion are under pressure to win now.. with some of the issues we've seen with the team's D zone play among other things I do not believe Boucher believes Chabot to be part of the immediate solution. I think they will try to stay patient and look for spots to plug him in but there is no doubt in my mind he will be sent back.

IMO its hard to try to bring a rookie D into and give them minutes when there is so little stability around them to coach them up.

I think you hit the nail on the head re: "under pressure to win now". How else can the Zibby for Brassard trade be explained? I think the acquisition of Phaneuf can be explained by that pressure too. Getting into the playoffs to get additional revenue seems to be the goal. Unfortunately it means sacrificing some of the future. Phaneuf and Brassard are both going to degrade over the course of their contracts given their age. Zibby was going to improve and last longer than Brassard. I don't like those two moves as I was looking forward to a brighter future and willing to sacrifice some of the "today".

 

[Cosmix]

I'll be at this game in the lower bowl behind the benches. Hoping for a good effort!

Never spent so much on a game before, I usually sit nosebleeds haha. The Sens only come to Vancouver once a year so gotta make it count.

Usually nose=bleeds for me too. However, I remember going to a Canucks game many years ago and sat immediately behind the penalty box. It was a nice close-up view of the action near the box but I could not see the play at both ends of the ice. I like the higher up view so I can see the entire ice surface and the play at all times.

Anyway, Peter Stastny got a penalty and I got his autograph! I also got a warning from the ref not to talk to the players in the box! HaHa!