Eager is on Waivers today. Should have just picked him up.
I thought it was fairly classless (if not trolling) of a mod to say a player only has 2 brain cells.
Hagelin's hit has absolutely nothing to do with how the tone of the series changed after Carkner gave Boyle a beating. It's not like Hagelin is a goon that was going around running people -- it was just an unfortunate situation. That kind of stuff happens. He got suspended for it and that's that.
I was responding to your assertion that 'deterrence doesn't exist' or something to that effect. Which just isn't true. There are always going to be psychos that act outside of the norm -- most guys in the league are going to think twice about taking that late hit, or throwing that questionable hit if they know that Kassian is going to be the next guy out on the ice.
So fighting doesn't deter dirty play, except when it does?
So fighting doesn't deter dirty play, except when it does?
Here's a more believable explanation of an NHL player's mindset - players don't think about Matt Kassian at all. They play the game as they would any other game. And if they do find themselves on the ice with him they probably have the puck on their stick.
So fighting doesn't deter dirty play, except when it does?
Here's a more believable explanation of an NHL player's mindset - players don't think about Matt Kassian at all. They play the game as they would any other game. And if they do find themselves on the ice with him they probably have the puck on their stick.
Just like Police don't deter crime except when they do.
Do you think Carkner changed momentum in that NYR series? If not, I question your knowledge of hockey.
Goons are just like the police, exactly. Same tactics, methods and punishments.
I don't think it's a question of whether Kassian will do his job, it's more the philosophy of playing such a player for few minutes in a game with a single purpose than playing a good 4th line player for 10 or more minutes.I remember a similar board-wide reaction to the Methot trade. Now I'm not saying he's going to blow us away like Meth, but give the guy a few games in a Sens sweater before writing him off as a scrub.
Carkner could play a little hockey, that's fairly important in this discussion.
you know what else changes momentum a guy with limited skills getting caught on the ice at the wrong time.
you know what else changes the momentum? not be able to roll 4 lines because you can no longer trust the 4th one.
There is a good argument to be made for having a guy who can take care of business there is a way better argument for a guy who can take care of business, take a regular shift and forecheck the crap out of the other team....like say Neil.
Lets not pretend there is no downside to having Kassian take up a roster spot. (altough maybe less so right now with all the injuries its not like huge skill is being removed.)
hopefully he comes in and shows his stuff and surprises!
Do you think Carkner changed momentum in that NYR series? If not, I question your knowledge of hockey.
Have you ever played sports before? Honest question.
Anyone that has played sports at any level (any sport really, but physical sports especially) can attest to the mental aspect of a game being almost as important, if not just as important, as the physical side.
As a player in any sport you are more likely to rush decisions, make mistakes, and generally play more tentatively if you think that you are in danger of being hurt, or if you think someone is going to do something illegal against you.
I can't believe Buffalo and Vancouver gave up on this guy, what a steal for a 6th rounder.
So Kassian playing 5 minutes a night is going to alter decision making up and down the oppositions lineup? This guy sounds incredible, surprised he's only making league minimum with that rare skill.
Yeah, in fact he's so effective, his role has been taken over by Konopka.
He may be fine here but can we stop pretending that this is a potential star 4th liner about to break out that we stole from Minny?
Mods take note? of what? of people with differing views who dont think its suitable for mods to have an opinion?
yes, i agree...mods take note.
So you haven't played sports before. That's all you had to say. Thanks for the discussion without any real substance.
I don't believe for one second Konopka replaced Kassian in the enforcer role.
What is more likely is that a 4th line consisting of ZK and MK just wasn't feasible.
Given Konoka's usefulness in the face-off circle, his new 2 year contract, nobody should be surprised a 4th liner on a 2-way lost out.
IMO Kassian will do fine on the Sens 4th line.
So he thinks Neil's a dummy? so what?
Are we allowed to comment on say Phillips' novice caliber shot?
or that we think Roy's a whiny diving baby?
or that Scott Parker is a useless goon?
Its a game, and we are fans, including the mods - how anyone could take anything like that personally or consider it classless/trolling etc is absurd to me.
And on the subject of class - can we all please acknowledge that there is a considerable difference between hockey "class" and real world class?
It makes me laugh to hear of all these classy hockey players simply because they give a decent interview.
The vast majority are not 'classy' individuals in any context.
They are awesome hockey players and lets leave it at that.