Recalled/Assigned: Oscar Klefbom Recalled From The OKC Barons 11/26/14

KarmaPolice

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Perfect time to call him up, just as he was fine tuning his game and ripping up the AHL. (9 games, 8 points, +10; not a minus in ONE game thus far.)

Time to call him up and ruin all of that. This management is just something else.
 

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Perfect time to call him up, just as he was fine tuning his game and ripping up the AHL. (9 games, 8 points, +10; not a minus in ONE game thus far.)

Time to call him up and ruin all of that. This management is just something else.

Can't have Nelson get credit for developing one of our prospects well now can we. Better call him up and totally undo all progress
 

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Must have really liked how good he was at keeping the popcorn and pop stocked in the PB.

Who needs playing time to develop? Pfffft.
Especially Klefbom who is 1 or 2 years behind in development because of his injuries in the past which vastly limited his playing time in previous seasons and is now finally completely healthy, and getting a lot of playing time is just KIND of how you develop.

So, yeah, it's not like the best thing to do would be to let him play the season in the AHL and let him dominate, then bring him up next season. (/end sarcasm)
This team is ****ing clueless.

Can't have Nelson get credit for developing one of our prospects well now can we. Better call him up and totally undo all progress

Yeah, it seems so. I just thank God we have at least one good coach among our two pro teams.
 

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Klef is playing wonderful in the AHL, but he still has some kinks in his game being a little too high risk at times, just let him work it out down there. We keep calling him up and not playing him, I don't see the point in it, I'd rather the team not bounce him around like a yo-yo just let him develop down there till he is good enough that he takes an NHL job permanently and never ever looks back.
 

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I ****ing hate my team. I'd pay a thousand bucks to punch Mac-T and Eakins in the face.
 

vincent1999

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Marincin and Klefbom are going to be a deadly pairing in the press box.

what side does Klefbom play???? LD or RD, and so who would he be paired with???

Hopefully, if he is up here that he gets at least a minimum of 15 minutes a night, otherwise he's better off playing 25 in OKL.

Almost the smart thing to do would be for Eakins to institute some kind of accountability on the back end. Schultz certainly to a prominent degree in the last few games, Petry at times as well, Ferrence for most of the time when he's asked to play top 4 minutes, and pretty much Nikitin all the time, each and every one of them could have seen some time in the pressbox as a counter measure for the poor quality of their play.

Eakins, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem!!!!!
 

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http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=741179

That means that we have 8 healthy D AGAIN!?! Trade incoming? Nikitin to IR?


Aulie doesn't count, cos he's not top 6 unless there is a minimum of a couple of injuries.

Klefbom is LD??? so plays with RD Schultz, Petry or Fayne, and the odd man out should be Nikitin and/or Ferrence???

I'd almost like to see the pairings of:
LD Marincin RD Petry
LD Klefbom RD Schultz
LD Ferrence RD Fayne

what is the past record of with whom has Klefbom been paired???
Ferrence needs bottom pairing minutes, although really I suppose so does Schultz, and Nikitin, absolutely does, if he's seeing any part of ice surface.
For the Oilers, at the moment, the best options for the top 2 pairs is to have RD Petry and RD Fayne occupying the right side.
 

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Aulie doesn't count, cos he's not top 6 unless there is a minimum of a couple of injuries.

Klefbom is LD??? so plays with RD Schultz, Petry or Fayne, and the odd man out should be Nikitin and/or Ferrence???

I'd almost like to see the pairings of:
LD Marincin RD Petry
LD Klefbom RD Schultz
LD Ferrence RD Fayne

what is the past record of with whom has Klefbom been paired???
Ferrence needs bottom pairing minutes, although really I suppose so does Schultz, and Nikitin, absolutely does, if he's seeing any part of ice surface.
For the Oilers, at the moment, the best options for the top 2 pairs is to have RD Petry and RD Fayne occupying the right side.

I'd change it a little bit. And yes, Klefbom is a LD. He has enough talent that I think he'll be able to play both sides in a few years, but for now he should play on the left side. But I would go with:

1st pair:
Marincin - Petry -- Marincin really carried Petry in the NJ game. With Marincin on the ice, only 2 attempted shots against were allowed compared to 30 Oiler shots FOR. (Petry was 28 for, 5 against. It's very clear who carried whom). Pretty amazing stat. This is why we hold on to Marincin, Klefbom and Nurse for dear life. If anyone asks for one of these three as a throw in on a trade in the trade board, you tell them where to go. Those 3 are our future and only hope.

2nd pair:
Klefbom - Fayne -- Fayne has had a very quietly solid year, and is just the type of vet that would help Klefbom's game in the NHL. I still think Klefbom should play out the season in OKC, but if he is played, I hope it's with Fayne. I think they'll be a good shut-down pair and complement each other well.

3rd pair:
Ference - Schutlz -- Ference has actually had a pretty solid season defensively speaking. Not too many major gaffes or mistakes. He could help cover for Schultz, and Schultz really should be sheltered on the bottom pairing until he can develop his defensive game further. This should've happened from the start, instead of treating him like a #1/2 guy straight out of college. And people wonder why his game isn't well rounded. They completely ****ed his development. You don't develop a defenseman coming straight out of college by playing him against the top opposition and playing 22 minutes a night. He actually averaged over 23 minutes a game last season; his first full season in ANY pro league! Utter and complete insanity by the management and coaching staff. And again, people wonder why he has holes in his game. It's not hard to see why when you look. But I digress.

I'd actually prefer we send both Marincin and Klefbom down to OKC to stay for the season, and play them monster minutes and develop them as much as possible. Play Nikitin and Aulie for the rest of the year. This season is done, anyway. Is it better than we get a few more wins and finish 5th last, or stick with the terrible Nikitin and draft one of Eichel or McDavid. We're screwed either way. At the very least, let's not screw up Marincin and Klefbom's development.
 
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Maybe a bold move to sit J. Schultz. A reporter asked Eakins why he sat Justin for the entire 2nd period after that 2nd goal. He said he deemed Justin the most guilty for that and it was completely unacceptable. Finally, J. Schultz deserves 10-12 minutes a night, mostly on the PP, then we will have utilized him properly.
Klefbom is a +10 on an OKC team where the majority are in the negative.
On a side note, Brad Hunt is 2nd on the team with 15 pts in 9 games. If he was there for the full 17, he's by far the leader on the team in pts :amazed:
http://okcbarons.com/index.cfm?fa=stats
 

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I'd change it a little bit. And yes, Klefbom is a LD. He has enough talent that I think he'll be able to play both sides in a few years, but for now he should play on the left side. But I would go with:

1st pair:
Marincin - Petry -- Marincin really carried Petry in the NJ game. With Marincin on the ice, only 2 attempted shots against were allowed compared to 30 Oiler shots FOR. (Petry was 28 for, 5 against. It's very clear who carried whom). Pretty amazing stat. This is why we hold on to Marincin, Klefbom and Nurse for dear life. If anyone asks for one of these three as a throw in on a trade in the trade board, you tell them where to go. Those 3 are our future and only hope.

2nd pair:
Klefbom - Fayne -- Fayne has had a very quietly solid year, and is just the type of vet that would help Klefbom's game in the NHL. I still think Klefbom should play out the season in OKC, but if he is played, I hope it's with Fayne. I think they'll be a good shut-down pair and complement each other well.

3rd pair:
Ference - Schutlz -- Ference has actually had a pretty solid season defensively speaking. Not too many major gaffes or mistakes. He could help cover for Schultz, and Schultz really should be sheltered on the bottom pairing until he can develop his defensive game further. This should've happened from the start, instead of treating him like a #1/2 guy straight out of college. And people wonder why his game isn't well rounded. They completely ****ed his development. You don't develop a defenseman coming straight out of college by playing him against the top opposition and playing 22 minutes a night. He actually averaged over 23 minutes a game last season; his first full season in ANY pro league! Utter and complete insanity by the management and coaching staff. And again, people wonder why he has holes in his game. It's not hard to see why when you look. But I digress.

I'd actually prefer we send both Marincin and Klefbom down to OKC to stay for the season, and play them monster minutes and develop them as much as possible. Play Nikitin and Aulie for the rest of the year. This season is done, anyway. Is it better than we get a few more wins and finish 5th last, or stick with the terrible Nikitin and draft one of Eichel or McDavid. We're screwed either way. At the very least, let's not screw up Marincin and Klefbom's development.


omg you're a masochist! That's a terrible batch of 6 defenceman :) and the most god awful matched pairings imaginable. So I guess it would be: well Ferrence has played with Petry lately 1st pairing, awful matched pair. And then what 2nd pairing Nikitin and Fayne, and then 3rd Aulie and Schultz. Guess in this scenario best to play Ferrence with whoever is going to be here long term, so either Petry or Schultz.
But .... I must admit there is a good degree of wisdom in parking Marincin and Klefbom down in OKL and letting them develop as much as possible playing 25 minutes a game, and for the long haul it's not such a bad idea.
Certainly, this season is a right off, but the only concern that immediately comes to mind is what sort of effect this has on the forward group???
Could be mass mutiny by guys we would probably like to keep (Hall, RNH) or need to keep for various other reasons (Yak, Perron), and I'm ambivalent about Eberle long term as he's just too similar to the other forwards, his return on a trade would yield something of value, and I just think a bigger forward would be better on the right side of the top line (and on the PP in front of the net).
But maybe some management of the limited calling up Klefbom and Marincin can keep the troops happy enough as to a potential future, and yet be used judiciously enough so as not to compromise a possible run for the roses (ie McDavid, Eichel)
 

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omg you're a masochist! That's a terrible batch of 6 defenceman :) and the most god awful matched pairings imaginable. So I guess it would be: well Ferrence has played with Petry lately 1st pairing, awful matched pair. And then what 2nd pairing Nikitin and Fayne, and then 3rd Aulie and Schultz. Guess in this scenario best to play Ferrence with whoever is going to be here long term, so either Petry or Schultz.
But .... I must admit there is a good degree of wisdom in parking Marincin and Klefbom down in OKL and letting them develop as much as possible playing 25 minutes a game, and for the long haul it's not such a bad idea.
Certainly, this season is a right off, but the only concern that immediately comes to mind is what sort of effect this has on the forward group???
Could be mass mutiny by guys we would probably like to keep (Hall, RNH) or need to keep for various other reasons (Yak, Perron), and I'm ambivalent about Eberle long term as he's just too similar to the other forwards, his return on a trade would yield something of value, and I just think a bigger forward would be better on the right side of the top line (and on the PP in front of the net).
But maybe some management of the limited calling up Klefbom and Marincin can keep the troops happy enough as to a potential future, and yet be used judiciously enough so as not to compromise a possible run for the roses (ie McDavid, Eichel)

It's not like we have much too work with on D. Fayne is really the only consistent top 4 Dman we have. But I also think you're really under-rating Marincin and Klefbom if you think the pairings are THAT bad. They may not be ready to make an impact yet, but they will probably be difference makers in a season or two. It's just that this team is such a mess, and there's so little quality other defensemen to pair them with, that it's probably best for them to play and develop in OKC. There's no shame in that. I keep bringing up TJ Brodie, who perhaps is half of one of the best D pairings in the league with Giordano. He didn't break out until this season and is 24. He virtually had no impact and was in the AHL/NHL for the past 3 seasons before this one. Hell, even Giordano didn't break out until 24/25 as a legit top pairing Dman. They take time. Klefbom is 21, but with all his injuries that have limited his playing time, and therefore development, he might as well be 19/20 for all intents and purposes. Yet he is dominating in the AHL in every game he has played down there this year so far. Klefbom has arrived. There will certainly be adjustments to be made to the NHL game, and it will be hard to shine on this awful team, but he will get better and better and better. Don't forget that there were many prospect pundits who thought Klefbom was a better prospect than Brodin in his draft year. By the time their careers are over, I wouldn't be surprised when looking back that we got the better Dman. I think the sky is the limit for him. Injuries have held him back immensely. He just needs now to stay healthy.
 

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Is it just about time to call Lander up to take a look? I don't know that he'd make much of a difference, but like Klefbom we should at least see a few games to see how he's progressed.
 

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Maybe a bold move to sit J. Schultz. A reporter asked Eakins why he sat Justin for the entire 2nd period after that 2nd goal. He said he deemed Justin the most guilty for that and it was completely unacceptable. Finally, J. Schultz deserves 10-12 minutes a night, mostly on the PP, then we will have utilized him properly.
Klefbom is a +10 on an OKC team where the majority are in the negative.
On a side note, Brad Hunt is 2nd on the team with 15 pts in 9 games. If he was there for the full 17, he's by far the leader on the team in pts :amazed:
http://okcbarons.com/index.cfm?fa=stats

The thing is, he doesn't really do much on the PP either. He's got 3 points on the PP this year. We've also given up 3 shorties, 2 of which I remember him being directly responsible (the most recent being the VAN game).

He was great at sneaking wristers from the point through traffic back in college, but that simply has not translated to the NHL level. He can't defend. He doesn't make proper reads of when to pinch/when to back off. He probably couldn't outmuscle GODreau for a loose puck. But he's a fantastic skater. We are trying to turn Kurt Browning into our PP specialist.

If we demoted Schultz to OKC, would anyone even claim him on waivers? I'm not so sure.
 

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I like that he's called-up. Hopefully that means Schultz is actually sitting for once. If Klefbom can shine through all this darkness, its a pleasant surprise! I can still cheer for individuals at this point. ; )
 

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The thing is, he doesn't really do much on the PP either. He's got 3 points on the PP this year. We've also given up 3 shorties, 2 of which I remember him being directly responsible (the most recent being the VAN game).

He was great at sneaking wristers from the point through traffic back in college, but that simply has not translated to the NHL level. He can't defend. He doesn't make proper reads of when to pinch/when to back off. He probably couldn't outmuscle GODreau for a loose puck. But he's a fantastic skater. We are trying to turn Kurt Browning into our PP specialist.

If we demoted Schultz to OKC, would anyone even claim him on waivers? I'm not so sure.

You can also fault Eakins' powerplay setup! I thought Ramsey was suppose to take the PP over but it appears to be the same setup as last season with only one d'man at the point while the rest in deep. That to me is a setup for disaster and it obviously does not work for this team. That, and I assure you we will all see more PP goals scored against with that setup!
 

vincent1999

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You can also fault Eakins' powerplay setup! I thought Ramsey was suppose to take the PP over but it appears to be the same setup as last season with only one d'man at the point while the rest in deep. That to me is a setup for disaster and it obviously does not work for this team. That, and I assure you we will all see more PP goals scored against with that setup!

and the diamond formation on the PK is as equally dumb, especially with goaltenders that don't have the skill to stop a shot from a player coming off the half wall and working into the dot position, so the last d man standing in front of the net has to challenge the player, and bingo a cross to the open guy standing on the other side of the net that the Oiler backside forward can't get to in time. I swear I think the Oilers are the only team in the league to ever use this defensive formation on the PK and it is "folly" (that is laughable, if the results didn't hurt so bad ...)
 

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just a thought here but maybe management is letting Eakins play the team his way? I have a feeling after what renney said that upsatirs was telling him which players to play, or to play them more.
 

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