Post-Game Talk: On the 3rd day, Mrazek said 'Let there be wins'

[WingedWheel1987]

Just take a look at the GDT: Lots of people blamed Tats in the first place, for taking a stupid penalty like that.
But just 'cause Big E's game wasn't that bad at all, it was annoying to see him clearing the puck like that.

But whatever, at least it didn't get punished and we got those two pints.

Ericsson routinely makes that mistake, but it doesn't always lead to a goal so people just forget about it.

He still makes the same dumb mistakes that he made three years ago.

 

[Lampedampe]

Ericsson routinely makes that mistake, but it doesn't always lead to a goal so people just forget about it.

He still makes the same dumb mistakes that he made three years ago.

Did you see the stupid pass Datsyuk made that almost led to a defensive zone turnover? I would assume not, 8/10 times the pass he made to kindl is intercepted and leads to a class A scoring chance. Do you remember the pass that Lakin made to tatar at our defensive blue-line that was almost intercepted aswell, we were just lucky that Tatar was very awake at that situation, the pass was pretty much behind him.. And at the end of the game people forget about it, but Larkin and Datsyuk made those poor passes and if big E did it then everyone would roast him.

E did a great job this game, and in the last 3 wins he's been key to our defense. He's a defensemen that you need on your team, big rugged and pins people at the boards and clears the net effectivly. Every teams has one, take E away and this defense looks weak, i'd rather have Green go down than E. Sure his contract is questionable but seriously, we need him. Marchenko is on good way to becoming a better big E but he's not there yet. The pass he made this game can be forgiven by how good he was at shutting down Ottawas PP.

Quincey and E has been great on the PK lately and especially in these past 3 wins. They don't play a perfect game but the hate they get is just unreal to me.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Did you see the stupid pass Datsyuk made that almost led to a defensive zone turnover? I would assume not, 8/10 times the pass he made to kindl is intercepted and leads to a class A scoring chance. Do you remember the pass that Lakin made to tatar at our defensive blue-line that was almost intercepted aswell, we were just lucky that Tatar was very awake at that situation, the pass was pretty much behind him.. And at the end of the game people forget about it, but Larkin and Datsyuk made those poor passes and if big E did it then everyone would roast him.

E did a great job this game, and in the last 3 wins he's been key to our defense. He's a defensemen that you need on your team, big rugged and pins people at the boards and clears the net effectivly. Every teams has one, take E away and this defense looks weak, i'd rather have Green go down than E. Sure his contract is questionable but seriously, we need him. Marchenko is on good way to becoming a better big E but he's not there yet. The pass he made this game can be forgiven by how good he was at shutting down Ottawas PP.

Quincey and E has been great on the PK lately and especially in these past 3 wins. They don't play a perfect game but the hate they get is just unreal to me.

The amount of mistakes that Datsyuk makes doesn't even come close to the amount of good plays Datsyuk makes.

With Ericsson, you are hoping it ends up being a 50/50 split on any given night.

Ericsson is about as irreplaceable as a light bulb. Same goes for Q. Dime a dozen players that are tremendously overrated because the talent level around them sets the bar very low.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Yeah, Ericsson played great in goal! He is the reason our PK was great last night! Except it was Mrazek.

You can't have it both ways. If the PK was all Mrazek, it shouldn't matter that Ericsson made one mistake. The goal is on Mrazek then.

 

[skate skate skate]

Yeah, Ericsson played great in goal! He is the reason our PK was great last night! Except it was Mrazek.

Ottawa had seven PPs. Do you know how many shots they manage to get on goal? Three. Three shots on seven PPs! One of those was a goal. So Mrazek made a grand total of two saves. I don't know, but to me this sounds like it was more then Mrazek standing on his head. But maybe that's just me?

I'll say the penalty killing guy's did a fantastic job last night. And Ericsson was one of those..

 

[Lampedampe]

The amount of mistakes that Datsyuk makes doesn't even come close to the amount of good plays Datsyuk makes.

With Ericsson, you are hoping it ends up being a 50/50 split on any given night.

Ericsson is about as irreplaceable as a light bulb. Same goes for Q.

I agree, ofcourse Datsyuk/Larkin makes less mistakes than big E and they also do more good things. I'm not gonna contest that all.

And yeah you can easily replace quincey/ big E but you can't really replace them with Shattenkirk and XO though, because then our defense would just crumble. You can replace E /quincey with other big defensive defeseman, and there are some that are better than E and quincey out there, like alzner bouwmeester and the list goes on. But the ones that we would be able to afford would probably just as good as them and then you have the effect that the rest of players start to question their GM becuase i'm sure that E and quincey are liked in the locker room and it could make players un happy, so for that reason i don't see that much of a reason to replace them. Quincey would probably have to go after this season due to cap but that's a different buisness.

At the end of the day you need players like Big E/quincey on your team, the play a key part

 

[Frk It]

These errors by Ericsson aren't few and far between. They've happened a lot this season. Go look at his giveaway numbers.

His breakout has been an issue this season. He actually used to be not bad at it, I'm not sure why he can't do it anymore. But it's pretty apparent. And it's an issue.

 

[Perfect Human]

To me Ericsson filled the "void" created by the departure of Stuie. I thought that Stuie was a top flight shutdown D. Him and Kronner were outstanding as a second paring. Ericsson and Kronner are not...

EDIT: Also, Q is a good D-man. He is a solid 3/4. Him and DK play well together and can shut down opponents. Q led to Z's goal. His stick lift in front of Pete was outstanding. You cannot just make claims because you want to make them. Watch the game and take from what happened, not what you think happened, or what you wnat to have happened.

 

[obey86]

Fans always need someone to hate. Ericsson is far from perfect (obviously) but every single team in the NHL has multiple "Ericsson caliber" players. His contract term really really sucks, but he's a useful player to have even if he makes too many mistakes. If we got rid of Ericsson we would just be replacing with another Ericsson caliber guy. Again, it's his contract that is the biggest issue.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

To me Ericsson filled the "void" created by the departure of Stuie. I thought that Stuie was a top flight shutdown D. Him and Kronner were outstanding as a second paring. Ericsson and Kronner are not...

EDIT: Also, Q is a good D-man. He is a solid 3/4. Him and DK play well together and can shut down opponents. Q led to Z's goal. His stick lift in front of Pete was outstanding. You cannot just make claims because you want to make them. Watch the game and take from what happened, not what you think happened, or what you wnat to have happened.

In a perfect world, Q is a bottom-pairing defenseman imo. Ever since he grew that beard though, he's been tough as nails. I just would rather have more capable defenseman playing with our top guys, but he is all we have at the moment.

 

[DanZ]

I think Ericsson is fine in a 5 or 6 role. He's obviously playing over his head right now with Kronwall, DeKeyser, and Green out.

 

[Frk It]

Fans always need someone to hate. Ericsson is far from perfect (obviously) but every single team in the NHL has multiple "Ericsson caliber" players. His contract term really really sucks, but he's a useful player to have even if he makes too many mistakes. If we got rid of Ericsson we would just be replacing with another Ericsson caliber guy. Again, it's his contract that is the biggest issue.

Not sure why his replacement would have to be another Ericsson caliber guy. Or like that guy would have the same strengths and weaknesses.

 

[skate skate skate]

Fans always need someone to hate. Ericsson is far from perfect (obviously) but every single team in the NHL has multiple "Ericsson caliber" players. His contract term really really sucks, but he's a useful player to have even if he makes too many mistakes. If we got rid of Ericsson we would just be replacing with another Ericsson caliber guy. Again, it's his contract that is the biggest issue.

Yes, that damn contract! If he would've had a cap hit of about 2M, I think he would be mighty well-liked around here. Big bottom paring, PK-specialist. It's his contract and the fact that he's playing way over his head in the top four that's rubbing people the wrong way.

In a perfect world, Q is a bottom-pairing defenseman imo. Ever since he grew that beard though, he's been tough as nails. I just would rather have more capable defenseman playing with our top guys, but he is all we have at the moment.

Ericsson should grow a beard.

 

[obey86]

Not sure why his replacement would have to be another Ericsson caliber guy. Or like that guy would have the same strengths and weaknesses.

My point is that every team in the league has great players. Your Larkins, Mrazeks, Datsyuks, etc.

And every team also has players who fill a specific role but struggle and make mistakes in other areas of their game. For the Wings, one of those guys in Ericsson. Far from a great player, fills a specific role, and struggles with turnovers and other aspects of the game that aren't his strength. We will ALWAYS have someone (actually, multiple someones) like that on the team. They won't be exactly the same type of player as Ericsson, but they will have a specific role and struggle in other areas like Ericsson does today. Get rid of Ericsson, but there will always be another "Ericsson", just like there is on every single team in the NHL.

 

[PuckDynasty]

Definitely. And how many good clearings did Ericsson had on those successful penalty kills? No one mentions them. And he wasn't taking any penalties.

But ERICSSON! MISTAKE! Looks like it's the only thing people want to remember from this game.

Mistakes are all about how and when you give them up. Jimmy Howard makes tons of saves but when he gives up a goal late in the game or right after the Wings score, it matters.

 

[14ari13]

Mistakes are all about how and when you give them up. Jimmy Howard makes tons of saves but when he gives up a goal late in the game or right after the Wings score, it matters.

We took 7 penalties, they 2. It was 6 on 4.
Yet Ericsson should have done better. It was a very easy play.

 

[Konnan511]

Big E helped stop 6/7 PKS and did not allow a 5v5 goal. He had a good game.

 

[TopShelfYzerman]

All I know is that Ericsson is absolutely brutal.

Ericsson has hardly improved since his debut. I hate to rag on him but hes turning pucks over, and seems to have no offensive touch whatsoever. Still needs work on his positioning and decision making and it seems he lacks confidence, know-how, or both.

 

[chances14]

Yet Ericsson should have done better. It was a very easy play.

i guess that's what most frustrating to me.

mrazek makes an outstanding play to put ericsson in position to easily clear the puck

I mean you do that play a 100 times, that puck should go out every single time (unless the stick breaks of course). There wasn't an ottawa player remotely close to him and had all the time in the world to rip the puck down the ice.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Big E helped stop 6/7 PKS and did not allow a 5v5 goal. He had a good game.

And he could have those same stats and put the puck in his own net. Imagine that in the Stanley cup. Yeah that's not a good game.

Except the 6-7 would turn into 6-8