Proposal: Olli Maatta for Sam Bennett?

[ref19]

Well, look what Maatta has had to go through. If he did not have to deal with that cancer he would likely be a different dman, maybe even faster.

Great point. Very excellent point actually.

 

[InfinityIggy]

It’s not an awful proposal but I think we need Bennett more than another D.

 

[Gurglesons]

Lol.

I mean, not a huge fan of Olli. But, he was a top four D in both those runs.

 

[treple13]

Sorry but the Flames need Bennett. He's been our 6th/7th best forward this year.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Calgary would never do this. Seriously why do people make proposals and not take both teams needs into consideration.

Basically the OP said who would I deal Maatta for, while completely ignoring the Flames needs. We don’t need Maatta, in fact dealing Bennett would create a madsive hole. Zero chance this happens plus I love Bennett, easy pass.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Pixiesfanyo approves. @Soggy Biscuit @Sidney the Kidney @Tom Hanks

Make it Jake for Bennett and Valimaki.

I think @pixiesfanyo would have his mind blown if the Pens traded Johnson for Bennett.

Of course, Treliving would probably need to have his head examined, but still.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

I think a large majority of Flames fans agree we should be looking to add another Bennett type player, rather than take one away.

The energy he can bring to the team could be comparable to Ferland vs. Canucks level come playoffs.

Pretty easy pass.

 

[Lunatik]

Scrap for scrap.

Why would Calgary want to add that contract to their blueline? A blueline where he'd be on the 3rd pairing.

 

[madmike77]

Why would Calgary want to add that contract to their blueline? A blueline where he'd be on the 3rd pairing.

That’s another issue - they can’t really afford to. He wouldn’t fit into their top 4 and he makes too much for a bottom pairing guy.

 

[wej20]

Why would Calgary want to add that contract to their blueline? A blueline where he'd be on the 3rd pairing.

Yep, makes zero sense for the Flames before you even consider value.

 

[Lunatik]

Yep, makes zero sense for the Flames before you even consider value.

Yeah, it really doesn't. I'm not necessarily against moving Bennett and before the Hanifin/Lindholm deal, I would have been okay with adding Maatta but it just makes no sense without factoring in value, which I think is probably fairly close.

 

[Peat]

Read my posts above. I have had this argument with pens fans.

Why are pens fans so motivated to trade Maata?

He's one of our few playing assets that we could (arguably) survive without that has some trade value. It is amusing that so many think he's a bad player but has good trade value, but we've all seen enough players that we don't rate go for decent prices to know that trade value isn't measured by our perceptions.

He's also seen in a bad light by various segments of the fanbase that believe one (or both) of the following:

a) Anyone who can't skate well is automatically a bad player/a bad fit on the Pens
b) There's no such thing as too many forwards and we spend too much money on our D

And there you have it. Throw in a couple of over active and under thinking Pens fans who like to post a lot of proposals here, and you've got the recipe for many Maatta proposal threads - even if a very sizeable part of the Pens fanbase here don't want to see him go unless we see his replacement (preferably upgrade) in the same trade or very soon afterwards.

 

[Beauner]

There is a very recent poll on the penguins board where the overwhelming majority of pens voted Maatta as the very worst defenseman on the team. Bennett may not be great, but he’s better than that.

Penguins fans are disappointed in him relative to expectations after his first couple years. They're also reactionary and anyone who has played poorly for longer than 3 weeks is garbage and needs traded

In reality he's a solid 2nd pairing guy and was a rock on a back to back cup winner

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Oh yay, HFBoards is talking about Olli Määttä again.

*dips head into vat of acid*

 

[DomBarr]

Scrap for scrap.

as all the other posts have said...regardless of player valuations there is not a trade to be had between Calgary and Pitts that involves any Pittsburgh Dmen.

 

[The Old Master]

Its so strange. Pens fans pump him up as if he is a bonafide top-4 dman that GMs would salivate at getting. Yet when i look at their Dcorps, they would need a top-4 dman to replace him. What gives?

we want to play an up tempo game. that's not the style that maatta is best suited for. that's not a knock on him, he's just not a good fit. jj is by far the worst d-man but with his contract he's not going to bring back anywhere close to maatta.

 

[The Gnome]

No! Calgary cannot afford to lose a player like Bennett, we are soft as is. He's the last guy we should be looking to move out with regards to our secondary players.

 

[Volica]

No! Calgary cannot afford to lose a player like Bennett, we are soft as is. He's the last guy we should be looking to move out with regards to our secondary players.

Pretty much this.
Only dude on the roster with some ugly to his game. Maatta, while I wanted him at that 2012 draft, does nothing in terms of helping Calgary. He'd be an overpaid depth D, something we just go out of the habit of using.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

we want to play an up tempo game. that's not the style that maatta is best suited for. that's not a knock on him, he's just not a good fit. jj is by far the worst d-man but with his contract he's not going to bring back anywhere close to maatta.

All teams are striving to play uptempo (quick) hockey. The Habs in particular have thrived by playing this style with lesser talent.

This is why I think the pens would have difficulty finding a suitor for Maata, due to his downtempo game. Maata’s game
Is not well suited to the prevailing trend of uptempo hockey.

 

[The Old Master]

All teams are striving to play uptempo (quick) hockey. The Habs in particular have thrived by playing this style with lesser talent.

This is why I think the pens would have difficulty finding a suitor for Maata, due to his downtempo game. Maata’s game
Is not well suited to the prevailing trend of uptempo hockey.

still are some teams on the coast, and maybe I should of used the word "structured" instead of up tempo.

 

[Meeqs]

CGY doesn't have a need for OM and Bennett has been solid for them this year.

Also Pit doesn't need any more wingers.

Just random trade with no thought behind it.

 

[OCPenguin]

Scrap for scrap.

Pittsburgh passes on this one.

 

[Lunatik]

Pittsburgh passes on this one.

Both teams do

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Even if Calgary didn't have Kylington, Hanifin, Valimaki, I would not even do Maatta for Jankowski never mind the superior Bennett. We got it right the first time.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

I don't know anything about Sam Bennett... But despite what you may hear from the hand-wringing Yinzer fans in Pittsburgh, Olli Maatta is not a "scrap".