Confirmed with Link: Olli Maatta for Kahun and a 5th

[Blackhawkswincup]

Colliton liking them Toews/Jokiharju winning intangibles.

JC had odd way of liking those Joker winning intangibles wish his piss poor/disastrous handling of Joker

 

[JaegerDice]

I dont think calling Maata one of the slowest skaters in the league is as hyperbolic as some would prefer to believe.

If he were making like, 2mil, then fine.

But rumors are starting to churn that Theodore might be on the block, just for example. Obviously you want Theodore on this team, but Maata and Seabrook’s combined 11mil tied up in slow 3rd pairing dmen makes that almost inpossible.

 

[ColdSteel2]

I dont think calling Maata one of the slowest skaters in the league is as hyperbolic as some would prefer to believe.

If he were making like, 2mil, then fine.

But rumors are starting to churn that Theodore might be on the block, just for example. Obviously you want Theodore on this team, but Maata and Seabrook’s combined 11mil tied up in slow 3rd pairing dmen makes that almost inpossible.

Go get Theodore and buy out Maatta if need be. The Hawks can’t afford to pass on a player like Theodore on that kind of value contract.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Hawks cant buyout Maatta

Window has passed and we have no arbitration cases

 

[ColdSteel2]

Hawks cant buyout Maatta

Window has passed and we have no arbitration cases

Right...then trade him if possible. It would be asinine to pass on an opportunity to acquire a player of the caliber of Shea Theodore because Maatta is there.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

He was Pens cap dump and our GM overpaid for him

We are stuck with him for at least a year

 

[Kurtosis]

He was Pens cap dump and our GM overpaid for him

We are stuck with him for at least a year

Kahun sure was a huge overpayment.

 

[Blackhawks]

Kahun sure was a huge overpayment.

Is that sarcasm?

 

[ColdSteel2]

Well, if players like Gusev and Theodore get moved for a reasonable price, Stan should have been more patient. Up until Lehner, I thought we were going to get another high lottery pick so was mostly just happy he didn’t sell out the future or sign anyone long term. Now looking back, I agree with those that say they could have done better if they actually intend on making the playoffs. Hopefully the guys we got are good enough.

Maatta- Solid pickup, can go year to year with him and see how it fits.

Shaw- Good pickup, stepped his game up with Montreal, should be a big addition if he can stay on the ice.

DeHaan- Mistake IMO, he has two bum shoulders and a decent sized cap hit.

Lehner- Amazing acquisition

 

[Kurtosis]

Is that sarcasm?

Indeed.

 

[Blackhawks]

Indeed.

So a 37pt rookie that is only gonna improve is now worthless? The people on these boards... lol

 

[BK]

I dont think calling Maata one of the slowest skaters in the league is as hyperbolic as some would prefer to believe.

If he were making like, 2mil, then fine.

But rumors are starting to churn that Theodore might be on the block, just for example. Obviously you want Theodore on this team, but Maata and Seabrook’s combined 11mil tied up in slow 3rd pairing dmen makes that almost inpossible.

You can be slow but effective still. If you are sound positionally then you are fine. This is why Maatta is a solid defenseman. He has never been fast but he has always had a high hockey IQ and been really solid positionally. Maatta just needs to be paired with a partner that skates well. The Hawks can provide that.

Also let's not act like he wasn't really important to both of the Pens cup runs.

 

[BK]

So a 37pt rookie that is only gonna improve is now worthless? The people on these boards... lol

Who said he is worthless? Please show the post and we will both call them out on it.

Is he replaceable? Yes by Kubalik who has produced at higher rates at every pro level. Is there a risk? Sure but fixing part of our D and PK is well worth the risk of trading Kahun.

 

[BK]

Maatta- Solid pickup, can go year to year with him and see how it fits.

Shaw- Good pickup, stepped his game up with Montreal, should be a big addition if he can stay on the ice.

DeHaan- Mistake IMO, he has two bum shoulders and a decent sized cap hit.

Lehner- Amazing acquisition

Bum shoulders? Are you sure? Have you seen his medical records? Something tells me the Hawks had access to them before the trade and their doctors were confident in his prognosis going forward.

Also he costed basically nothing and we got a solid prospect back.

 

[Kurtosis]

So a 37pt rookie that is only gonna improve is now worthless? The people on these boards... lol

Sometimes I wonder how you reach the conclusions you do.

 

[BK]

He was Pens cap dump and our GM overpaid for him

We are stuck with him for at least a year

This is not really accurate. Thanks for trying though.

The Pens needed space and no one was trading for Jack Johnson so JR had to trade an asset with value to clear space.

 

[ColdSteel2]

Bum shoulders? Are you sure? Have you seen his medical records? Something tells me the Hawks had access to them before the trade and their doctors were confident in his prognosis going forward.

Also he costed basically nothing and we got a solid prospect back.

Look, I hope it works out. Reading about 3 surgeries on one, 1 on the other and the insurance company dropping him is worrisome.

We should have kept some powder dry for Gusev, Theodore or whoever else may become available.

What’s done is done though, move Anisimov for picks/prospects and they can make one more big move. So it’s not over yet.

 

[AmericanDream]

So a 37pt rookie that is only gonna improve is now worthless? The people on these boards... lol

ignoring the idiocy of most of your post because Kurt never said anything close to this - you do know that Kahun is 24 years old right now.....and....so is Maatta..right????

 

[BobbyJet]

Look, I hope it works out. Reading about 3 surgeries on one, 1 on the other and the insurance company dropping him is worrisome.

We should have kept some powder dry for Gusev, Theodore or whoever else may become available.

What’s done is done though, move Anisimov for picks/prospects and they can make one more big move. So it’s not over yet.

Which begs the question, considering the fact that so many teams were "cap strapped" did Stan jump the gun?

 

[clydesdale line]

But rumors are starting to churn that Theodore might be on the block, just for example.

Where are you seeing this? It's not on the main board or Vegas' board that he is available. Would be shocking and highly unlikely that they would give up a 23 year old very good defensemen.

 

[Kurtosis]

Where are you seeing this? It's not on the main board or Vegas' board that he is available. Would be shocking and highly unlikely that they would give up a 23 year old very good defensemen.

I also googled it and nothing came up. Maybe it’s from radio up in Canada or something.

 

[ColdSteel2]

Which begs the question, considering the fact that so many teams were "cap strapped" did Stan jump the gun?

Yeah, I think he did. If anyone should have understood what opportunities may come due to the cap strapped teams, it’s him. The money was gone as soon as it became available.

 

[Rick C137]

I can’t imagine there’s any way Theodore is on the block. Vegas literally has 5 defensman under contract right now (including Theodore) and only 3 past next year. Not to mention Theodore is locked up on a good contract for 6 more years.

It would be stupid for Vegas to move Theodore outside of a massive overpayment.

Sometimes I wonder how you reach the conclusions you do.

I wonder why so many people respond to him at this point.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Yeah moving Theo makes no sense for Vegas

 

[nmgrbhfn]

Bum shoulders? Are you sure? Have you seen his medical records? Something tells me the Hawks had access to them before the trade and their doctors were confident in his prognosis going forward.

Also he costed basically nothing and we got a solid prospect back.

Anyone who is following the news would have read that CDH is ahead in his rehab and is anticipating participation in training camp.