Oilers win 3-2 (OT) in Boston

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DisgruntledGoat*

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Trading Eberle and thinking Yak (a player who has shown no sign of being an actual top six forward) can replace him is MacT-level logic.

Move a proven component and replace it with best wishes and pixie dust.
 

Zihuatanejo

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I don't see a deal being done with either RNH or Eberle any time soon. The reason being they won't be traded for anything less than a sure thing on the blue line and honestly who moves those kind of players? Top pairing defence man are hard to come by and rarely traded unless they have question marks in their game.

Even if there is a trade to be had, I do not feel comfortable trading away offence at this point. Not enough consistency from any of the forwards who would be moved into those positions. But that is just my personal opinion.
 
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Trading Eberle and thinking Yak (a player who has shown no sign of being an actual top six forward) can replace him is MacT-level logic.

Move a proven component and replace it with best wishes and pixie dust.

Mact logic would be keeping the fancy dan's and addressing the defence deficiency with half measures. Sounds like you're on board for that.
 

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I would rather not trade Eberle or Yak, if we could get a top pairing D man I would be all for it but I feel as if Yakupov is a salvageable asset. He is far from perfect but at the end of last season/start of this season there was noone saying they prefer Purcell to Yak. The guy isn't soft and has a world class shot. I want to see what he can do with a real coach and a skilled center. If Eberle or Purcell were playing with Letestu and Hendricks I think they would be struggling too. Nail and Connor had instant chemistry. We picked him first overall, he was the consensus best player in his draft year I don't see why everyone wants to throw him away just because he doesn't produce with plugs. After his rookie season everyone was singing his praises and talking about how great he was, after seeing him play with Roy last season and Mcdavid this year I see no reason to trade him for the spare parts we are likely to get. Ride out his cheap contract and see what he can do paired with actual skilled players. Put the guy in a position to succeed for once.
 

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Yak is not a smart player and there is little evidence he ever will be. People defending him are misinterpreting the player.
 

Raoul Duke

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Good teams keep the goal scorer and configure the team around them to limit goals against. Besides, with Ebs I dont think hes a bad two way player. On a better team that would be more apparent.

Eberle is a bad two way player.
Excellent goal scorer.
Bad two way player.
 

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Mact logic would be keeping the fancy dan's and addressing the defence deficiency with half measures. Sounds like you're on board for that.

I'm not sure how it became an article of faith among some that the only possible way to adequately address the blueline is by trading a top six forward, and yet here we are. I suspect for some it's less about this being a logical course of action and more about a psychological need to break with the past.
 

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Beside my neighbor..
Last time the Oilers beat Boston at home..was in 1996....

Apple was in financial trouble...Now worth over $700,000,000..
Twitter was something birds did..
Google was a strange baby noise..
Amazon was a book-store...
Ebay was known as AuctionWeb..

McDavid wasn't even born yet..

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Pressure

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I hate jumping on players when we win, but What in the Hell was/is Lander? Just a faceoff specialist? The guy was a floating pile of turd all night. He couldn't connect on any passes nor receive them. When he gets the puck he's not even moving his feet, just looking to dish it off. He's cheating for defence in the offensive zone like how MPS used to.

What the hell has happened to Lander? This dude sucks.
 

TheRebuild

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Complete and utter nonsense.:shakehead

Agree. Yak is not a "soft" forward, I've seem him hit dudes so hard their head practically spins around, Eberle doesn't do that. Problem with Yak is he often has a hard time "getting into" the game, it'll seem like he's chasing the play around all night rather than driving it. When he's on though, he provides a unique element.
 

Kepler 186f

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Talbot was fantastic.

The rest, not really.

Would you start Talbot again tonight? I think I would, he has to be rested.
 

KeithIsActuallyBad

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Agree. Yak is not a "soft" forward, I've seem him hit dudes so hard their head practically spins around, Eberle doesn't do that. Problem with Yak is he often has a hard time "getting into" the game, it'll seem like he's chasing the play around all night rather than driving it. When he's on though, he provides a unique element.

Yak just offers very little at this point. Eberle at least scores. Yak can hit but if that's all he brings...
 

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Everyone wants to trade for a good d-man but I dont see any teams looking to trade those away no matter what we're offering up. You can get a problem d-man for another problem guy like the Daley for Scuderi deal but I think every team needs defencemen and your unlikely to get a quality guy unless there is a problem like he's about to be a UFA. You dont deal RNH or Eberle for an impending free agent. We are either going to have to develop our d or sign a UFA in the summer. Signing a free agent might mean we need to deal someone to clear some cap space going forward but it'll likely be for third liners, picks and/or prospects. That's just the way it is in the NHL now with the tight cap and fears of it staying stagnant.

Every trade deadline or midway mark of a season there is always a headline run, x teams looking for 2nd 3rd pairing dman so that's #3-6 dman.
 

Suxnet

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Yak outside of sponging off of McDavid and Pouliot for secondary assits has proven himself 110% expendable. Still seems to be lost in the defensive zone. Still more often than not he seems to have an allergic reaction to contact.

Sure he hits everyonce in a while. Sure he has some offensive potential. But I prefer Purcell in every way imaginable. A much better complimentary winger. I would prefer having a guy like Kharia on the right side.

Anyone who thinks Yak could effectively replace a guy like Eberle is smoking some serious Crack.

Thanks for the laugh. :laugh:
 

dustrock

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Talbot was fantastic.

The rest, not really.

Would you start Talbot again tonight? I think I would, he has to be rested.

Nope. I guess the fact he hasn't played much might mean he has more energy, but stats say you're better off playing your backup in back-to-back games.
 

GMofOilers

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Still slamming Eberle and defending Yak here, its kinda hilarious.

Im going to hate to see these boards when Yak is on the 3rd line and Eberle is playing with McDavid.
 

McWeber

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Still slamming Eberle and defending Yak here, its kinda hilarious.

Im going to hate to see these boards when Yak is on the 3rd line and Eberle is playing with McDavid.

If your going to play either of them on a checking line you might as well trade them for a checker. I say keep them both and let overpaid, soft Purcell go in the summer. Noone accuses him of riding Hall and Drai's coattails but he was absolute garbage at the start of the season. Yes he has gotten better but Yak and Ebs are legitimate long term options at RW. I would rather gamble on Yak then Purcell.
 

GMofOilers

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If your going to play either of them on a checking line you might as well trade them for a checker. I say keep them both and let overpaid, soft Purcell go in the summer. Noone accuses him of riding Hall and Drai's coattails but he was absolute garbage at the start of the season. Yes he has gotten better but Yak and Ebs are legitimate long term options at RW. I would rather gamble on Yak then Purcell.

Me to actually. Wasnt really the point I was making though.
 

Suxnet

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The people bashing Eberle aren't praising Yak though. Seems like people are ******** on both and turning a blind eye to Teddy.

I, for one, have been trashing Purcell all season. He's riding the coattails of one of the hottest duos in the NHL, and people want him re-signed lol.

Same reason why people think Eberle is a god now because he scored a few goals despite being a complete liability without the puck.
 

Halibut

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Every trade deadline or midway mark of a season there is always a headline run, x teams looking for 2nd 3rd pairing dman so that's #3-6 dman.

Sure but what do they end up with? An older overpaid guy who's a bottom pairing guy on a good team but maybe can play higher. If they get a talented guy he's probably on an expiring contract so you are not trading an Eberle or an RNH for that guy but that 1st round pick is looking like it could be gone if we're in or close to a playoff spot by trade deadline and a Byfuglien is available.

You can complain about soft play all you want but between the shootout winner against Boston that started this win streak, the overtime goal against Dallas and his three point game last night Eberle is personally responsible for 4 of the 12 points we've managed on this win streak. You better be sure you are getting something that improves your team if you trade that away. I'm not sure anything like that is available in trade.
 
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