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WestCoast

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They were bad at the worst possible time, is it me or did they get stuck with some unlucky 1st overall pick years? Hall and (probably) Hopkins are good but, not on the level of most other 1st overalls and now they are probably gonna miss out on an actual 1st overall talent in Yakupov next season, sucks to be an Oilers fan having to settle as those 2 as your picks for the future.
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SK13

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I would rather have Taylor Hall than 3 of the previous 5 first overall picks that came before him.

Just saying.
 

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Yakupov doesn't fit their organizational needs. With Hall, Eberle, MPS, Omark & Hemsky, the wing isn't a concern, center is.
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If we get Yakupov, I would pack Omark and/or Hemsky's bags for them.
 

OMGaudreau

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Well trade Hall and Hopkins to my Flames and you can stay in the basement for a few more years.
 
Avsboy

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WestCoast said:
They were bad at the worst possible time, is it me or did they get stuck with some unlucky 1st overall pick years? Hall and (probably) Hopkins are good but, not on the level of most other 1st overalls and now they are probably gonna miss out on an actual 1st overall talent in Yakupov next season, sucks to be an Oilers fan having to settle as those 2 as your picks for the future.
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Avs have to settle for Duchene and Landeskog, so....
 

chewey

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SK13 said:
I would rather have Taylor Hall than 3 of the previous 5 first overall picks that came before him.

Just saying.
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So out of the previous five first overall picks:

Tavares (2009)
Stamkos (2008)
Kane (2007)
EJ (2006)
Crosby (2005)

You'd take Hall over 3 of those players? :eek:

What am I misreading? Lol
 
Stealth JD

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Yes...poor, poor Oilers...back to back 1st overall selections. How awful. It's too bad there's not a talent for them available like Lemieux or Gretzky. That franchise could really use a player of that caliber finally...all these years of never having sniffed a Stanley Cup Finals, let alone hoisting a Cup. For a franchise that always seems snake-bitten and having about as much success as the LA Clippers, it woud be nice to see them at long last get a super-star player to lead them to the promised land.





PS - Nobody feels sorry for Edmonton.
 

umwoz

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What's wrong with Taylor Hall? As far as I'm concerned he has elite upside as a 40-45 goal scorer who can take over games. Like a healthy "prime performing" Gaborik.

RNH is a risk, but has absolutely massive upside, I seriously think he could be a top 10 center in the league if he pans out.

Two excellent prospects, and what makes Yakupov so much better than Hall? People hype up his rookie season, however he came to the OHL late,and at the same age Hall put up similar numbers. I also think Yakupov will be a very good player, we are talking about elite prospects but to say that it "sucks to settle" for two prime prospects is a little misguided. It's not like Yakupov is a surefire Ovechkin.

All this said, why should we believe the Oilers will be making huge strides next year? All signs point to a lottery pick again, IMO of course. With which they could take a fantastic prospect in Ryan Murray.


This posts seems like one of the many spoiled posters who think there will be a Crosby/Ovechkin in every other draft.
 
Toydarian

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Why is Hall not on the same level as previous 1st overall picks? How is Yakupov a better prospect than Hall? I agree that Nugent-Hopkins has questions but his top end potential is quite high.
 

Scouter

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dmitri said:
So out of the previous five first overall picks:

Tavares (2009)
Stamkos (2008)
Kane (2007)
EJ (2006)
Crosby (2005)

You'd take Hall over 3 of those players? :eek:

What am I misreading? Lol
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I'd say Hall is maybe better than Tavares, is better than Kane and Johnson.
 
Toydarian

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I think Hall can be just as good as Stamkos, call me crazy (all our opinions are relatively worthless anyway).
 
ponder

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Guys like Philips, DiPietro, Stefan and Daigle have gone 1st overall, I personally think Hall is a good/legit 1st overall talent, and I feel the same way about RNH. Neither are gonna be the next Crosby, but both elite talents IMO.
 

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I don't know, Hall dominated games as an 18 year old at times. He just didn't put up decent points scored from the perimeter or power play either, he was pretty damn amazing on some nights. I think the OP underestimates him quite a bit.
 
SDig14

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Anyone saying that Hall doesn't have upside to be as dominant as Kane, Johnson, or JT was clearly not watching him at all this year. Those 4 guys + Duchene are all pretty close, all of whom are probably a level below Stamkos and may never catch up.

I have no idea why this thread was even made because it's clear what the outcome would be, but even though this draft has some question marks, to suggest Hall is not worthy of being 1st overall or compared to past top picks not named Sid, ovy, or Stamkos, is pretty ridiculous.
 
CupofOil

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Drafting Hall is bad luck? Oh please.... Beyond Crosby, Ovechkin and Stamkos out of the recent #1's, i would take Hall before all the other ones and maybe even Tavares and Kane, he is at least on their level as far as top end potential is concerned.
This year was probably a bad year to tank but RNH is no slouch either. He could surprise and be better than people think, players with top end hockey IQ and elite vision tend to do very well at any level.
 
Paranoid Android

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If you are given back-to-back two first overall picks, you can't say the team is unlucky. They are being given a gift
 
SDig14

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the word said:
I don't know, Hall dominated games as an 18 year old at times. He just didn't put up decent points scored from the perimeter or power play either, he was pretty damn amazing on some nights. I think the OP underestimates him quite a bit.
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He basically had an identical rookie year to JT and duchene, and if he doesn't get hurt and we have a PP that was any less pathetic as it was this year, he would have put up a 30 goal rookie year.

The guy was dominating games, especially in the last 8-10 games, before his untimely injury.
 
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