Yes, thank you! All excellent things to read. I do have one question though. Why didn't Fayne get more icetime in Jersey? He played mostly with Greene, but he still only came in at 6th for TOI/G. Why is that?
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Yes, thank you! All excellent things to read. I do have one question though. Why didn't Fayne get more icetime in Jersey? He played mostly with Greene, but he still only came in at 6th for TOI/G. Why is that?
Aceboogie
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Even still though, you'd think he'd be playing massive PK minutes, and if he's on the top pair, you'd think he'd be playing higher ES minutes.
McOilbleeder
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Well in total TOI he's 3rd. #3 in ES TOI, #4 in SH TOI and #8 in PP TOI.
Guys like Greene and Zidlicky were used more in PP TOI, and then guys like Salvador and Volchenkov in SH TOI.
It seems they sort of compartmentalized certain roles for some of their D-man.
He got the heavy lifting for ES with Greene, and some of the secondary SH TOI duties.
In straight TOI, yes, but not in TOI/G. Here's a link to nhl.com's TOI stats for Jersey. He's 6th overall in TOI/G and 6th in ES TOI/G. 4th in SH TOI/G, so you're right that he got secondary PK time, but you'd think he'd be higher up in straight TOI/G. Even if you take Larsson and Harrold out of the equation, Fayne is 4th.
Kurt Cobain
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Ugh don't even get me started. Lets just say it had nothing to with his abilities or his play at the time. Pete DeBoer is notorious for picking favorites and he was obsessed with giving Salvador and Volchenkov much more time than they deserved. Anyone with half a brain knew that Fayne was being mishandled especially to start the season last year. Add in the fact that you had Andy Greene and Zidlicky playing fantastic last year for much of the season. Then there was the emergence of Jon Merrill and Gelinas last year. So there was a lot of factors that caused that. It wasn't until Gelinas came back down to earth that Fayne was finally being used correctly. But trust me when I say that whenever Fayne played last year he was great so it had nothing to with anything on his part. Chalk that up to DeBoer trying to fit a a square peg in a round hole. He did it to Adam Larsson as well. Last year frustrated the hell out of us Devil's fans when it came to personnell decisions. The majority of Devils fans wanted Pete fired even when we were actually winning games. I wasn't one of them but I was damn well close.
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Another devils fan here... Congrats on this signing 3.625 is a steal for Mark Fayne. He is an absolute staple. With our logjam on D I still hoped the Devils were going to resign but its time for our kids to take the reign. Hopefully for both of our teams Greene and Fayne don't need each other to produce like they did last year because they were far and away our best tandem. 3.625 is a great hit for a top 4 dman who has shown he could handle top pairing minutes. Congrats again!
Zajacs Bowl Cut
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He didn't get any PP time and hardly got PK time
they would roll out the corpses of Bryce Salvador and Anton Volchenkov over him on the PK, and then of course Andy Greene.
5v5 though he was almost always with Greene going against #1 lines.
Kevin27NYI
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Looks like I didn't even have to say anything, Devil fans doing the job. I am a big fan of Fayne, really jealous you guys got him.
Zajacs Bowl Cut
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He is not going to be some #1 savior, but he is a very, very solid top 4 DMan
Only problem is he will rarely put up points but you guys have plenty of guys who can do that already.
Our top pairing will probably be Nikitin and Fayne to start the year, to be honest it will be the best top pair we have had in years
Jimmi McJenkins
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Actually, I would like to see him and Marincin play together. If he's as steady as is suggested, he might allow Marty to be more dynamic and offensive as a player.
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Fayne is going to play the toughest minutes...something Maricin is years away from being able to do.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Marincin might be able to handle it but I rather for him to keep developing on the second pairing where he doesn't seem out of place.
Nikitin Fayne for top minutes
Marincin Petry for second pairing
Ference Schultz for bottom pairing with Schultz getting prime pp time
McDNicks17
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Very small sample, but this is right. Whether he can be trusted to do it over the long haul still remains to be seen, but the early signs are encouraging.
I was thinking Nikitin-Fayne would be a good pairing to play the tough minutes, but recently I've been starting to wonder if it wouldn't be better with Marincin in Nikitin's place myself. I think Marincin is a better puck mover than Nikitin, and that seems to be exactly the type of player Fayne has excelled with in the past (though Greene is a much more proven commodity than Marty). Petry, with a more experienced guy to his left might allow him to have more success in a tough minutes role, and his time paired with Smid would suggest he doesn't need a strong puck mover on his pairing to get results.
Either way, we wouldn't have the flexibility to try those types of things out if we hadn't been able to sign Fayne in the first place. Just a great signing IMO.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Staios was probably a better offensive player. Fayne probably a bit better defensively.
Similar roles I think though. Solid, reliable 2nd pairing guys. Before Staios declined later in his career though.
