Post-Game Talk: Oilers @ Rangers 11/9/14

[pjr378]

I'm more worried about the mindset of this team than anything else after last night.

You have to grant that fatigue would be a factor last night. But for this team to return to its own building and play zombie style for 60 minutes is just unacceptable on the NHL level. I'm happy that Hayes played well but with the amount of talent in the forward positions he should not be the one player standing out.

I supported hiring AV when he was available but I've questioned his skills to motivate players. There are guys like Hank and McDonagh who you know will always be up for it, even if it were 3 games in 4 nights. Others, not so much. It's AV's job to keep after those other guys and crack down on slacking.

We've had some nice comebacks this year. But we've also had last night and that crap performance in Montreal where we just kept rolling lines and nothing was being done to force the game. It's times like these when I wonder if AV has the MO to get 100% out of his players week in and out.

 

[True Blue]

Is this really implying the Rangers haven't worked hard this season?

In my view, the Rangers have not been outworking many teams this season.

 

[Riche16]

Teams that are on the outside looking in at Thanksgiving usually have a hard time getting into the post season.

That being said, the script is written for us to do exactly that season. The injuries have piled up and we lost a few "key" players in the off-season.

Getting the new guys to gel and getting key injured players back will be viewed as the reason for our turnaround.

I'm not going to let myself panic until after x-mas.

 

[Kovalev27]

the good thing out of last night was AV was forced to go to hagelin Hayes Duke and actually played them and they played well. leave them alone give them third line mins

these kids are used to playing big mins everywhere they've ever played giving them 8 9 mins does nothing for them. give them 3rd line mins play hayes on the pK like they've been starting to do play duke on the 2nd pp unit like they've been doing

let's develop them properly. only 2 rookies on the team we can live with their mistakes lord knows the vets are making way more of than they are.

I think hayes is very solid defensively I have no problem playing him with duke in all honesty the more I think about it.

id stick with nash brass msl and ck stepan zucc then follow up with hags hayes duke and glass moore stempniak

eventually miller should get some mins in dukes spot imo

 

[chosen]

Mmm not if they are playing like this. They are giving up way too many goals and the offense takes way too many periods off at a time.

Yes, if they smell it up, they could miss.

Which way are you betting?

 

[True Blue]

The injuries have piled up and we lost a few "key" players in the off-season.

Hardly a reason not to battle in a corner or in front of net.

 

[Riche16]

Hardly a reason not to battle in a corner or in front of net.

Absolutely true.

I'm still not going to panic.

They stunk this weekend. Flat out.

They also had plenty of days/weekends/stretches last yr where you could say the same.

Especially early... and it wasn't all just new coach/new system issues.

 

[Thirty One]

The only thing good about a Rangers' losing streak is we get to see some posters we don't see when things are going well.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

I think Duclair should stay at this point. In Toronto, you could point at Hunwick, and definitively say he lost us the game. You'd be right. Last night, 18 players not named Lundqvist lost us the game. It was just awful. You can't blame Glass either, as much as some people idiotically do.

 

[TheTakedown]

I think Duclair should stay at this point. In Toronto, you could point at Hunwick, and definitively say he lost us the game. You'd be right. Last night, 18 players not named Lundqvist lost us the game. It was just awful. You can't blame Glass either, as much as some people idiotically do.

i think glass is being blamed due to his lack of creativity and relative uselessness... but he's not the reason anything was lost.

on the other hand, it was the 4th line last year that saved many games and shifted momentum back into the rangers favor... so the hate might be justified

 

[Steve Kournianos]

Youre going to have games like these early in the season. Theyre not indicative of the body of work.

The roster isnt complete and the results are obvious. I know people are pissed at the standings but this team is way too deep when healthy to struggle.

Whatever. So good things, some bad things. I have seen the Dark Ages and this is not dark.

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

i think glass is being blamed due to his lack of creativity and relative uselessness... but he's not the reason anything was lost.

on the other hand, it was the 4th line last year that saved many games and shifted momentum back into the rangers favor... so the hate might be justified

Opportunity cost ... Glass's presence means some other line has to get a lot of Dzone time. His line cannot be a fourth line like last year's, which was great at defense, etc.

So he gets put with offensive players, which doesn't work either.

His presence screws everything up.

 

[Leetch66]

Love the wraparound attempts...sure miss Sean Avery .

 

[Ail]

The only thing good about a Rangers' losing streak is we get to see some posters we don't see when things are going well.

That and the true colors of some others are revealed.

 

[Jabroni]

The only thing good about a Rangers' losing streak is we get to see some posters we don't see when things are going well.

That's not necessarily a good thing.

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

I'm happy that Hayes played well but with the amount of talent in the forward positions he should not be the one player standing out.

I'll never understand this line of thinking, that a rookie can't shine or be one of the better players on a team. If the kid is good, he's good, regardless of who else is on the team or plays the same position as him. It's like saying Duclair shouldn't be a stand-out player because MSL is on the roster.

 

[nyrpassion]

Teams that are on the outside looking in at Thanksgiving usually have a hard time getting into the post season.

That being said, the script is written for us to do exactly that season. The injuries have piled up and we lost a few "key" players in the off-season.

Getting the new guys to gel and getting key injured players back will be viewed as the reason for our turnaround.

I'm not going to let myself panic until after x-mas.

I agree. We are pretty much on par with last season. I refuse to panic until January 1st.

I remember last year, went to the Calgary game last year mid December, with a couple from HF. We were then around 4 points out of a playoff spot. I did not panic....


unlike.... Nols.

 

[Doctyl]

I think the leafs and isles fall apart. No way they keep it up. Rangers have been incredibly unlucky with injuries. We'll be fine

 

[PromNite]

I think the leafs and isles fall apart. No way they keep it up. Rangers have been incredibly unlucky with injuries. We'll be fine

That's very optimistic thinking. The Rangers will have to take the bull by the horns and get better pretty soon or we'll be the ones who fell apart.

 

[Machinehead]

Remember, we were 23rd in the league on Christmas last year. ****ing Christmas!

There's time.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

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