Speculation: Offseason coaching thread: Should they stay or should they go?

[SEALBound]

That edit is considered sacrilege to the Pens organization and media. Josh Yohe would have stern words for you if he saw that.

I would love to have a sit down podcast discussion in a locked room with Yohe, Rossi, DK, etc where they couldn't leave if they got upset.

 

[DrDangles]

Jacques Martin is probably out in Ottawa, would definitely welcome him back with open arms.

We need to accept that Sully is riding out his contract here, best we can hope for is an overhaul of the assistants.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I would never want to be locked in a room with ANY of those guys for a multitude of reasons.

 

[Empoleon8771]

FIFY.

Sullivan isn't being fired, I've accepted that already.

Rierden is inexcusable to not be fired in the most disrespectful way possible.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Todd Reiden tried to sharpen a pencil in his butt and now he needs a band-aid..

 

[Gurglesons]

Jacques Martin is probably out in Ottawa, would definitely welcome him back with open arms.

We need to accept that Sully is riding out his contract here, best we can hope for is an overhaul of the assistants.

They are moving him up not out from my understanding.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

I would love to have a sit down podcast discussion in a locked room with Yohe, Rossi, DK, etc where they couldn't leave if they got upset.

Just ask them to explain strategy and the podcast would get quiet, except for the host.

"It seems all three of my guests have convulsed and are now in the fetal position on the floor...and now a word from our sponsor, Factor."

 

[SEALBound]

Jacques Martin is probably out in Ottawa, would definitely welcome him back with open arms.

We need to accept that Sully is riding out his contract here, best we can hope for is an overhaul of the assistants.

Absolutely not.

Just ask them to explain strategy and the podcast would get quiet, except for the host.

"It seems all three of my guests have convulsed and are now in the fetal position on the floor...and now a word from our sponsor, Factor."

I wouldn't be that cruel. Course I'd have the "You figure out what the F3 does yet?" ready.

 

[DrDangles]

Absolutely not.

To what exactly? Him leaving or us bringing him back?

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

IMO, we’ll have to get ready for the exact same parade of buffoons behind our bench in October…

When/if that occurs, I hope ticket sales absolutely f***ing plummet (as fast as we will be, in the standings)….

I think that will be the only way that those FSG f***heads do anything, once the money train stops rolling..

 

[SEALBound]

To what exactly? Him leaving or us bringing him back?

Him coming back.

 

[DrDangles]

Him coming back.

Dude literally coached a Letang-less defense to a cup in 17 and you don't want him back?

 

[66-30-33]

I'd take Martin back but I don't see us firing anybody and expecting changes to happen like it was a fluke year with the PP. Roster changes will happen but not very many and we will suffer again next season with our eyes closed crossing our fingers.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

It’ll be the same old garbage with the same old excuses/zero accountability except everyone will be a year older/more injury prone.

Aside from postgame highlights, I’m glad I’ve 95% checked out from watching this arrogant, self-inflicted, dumpster fire of complacent pretenders/passengers a few years back as I’ve said.

 

[HandshakeLine]

If only we could figure out how NOT to shoot ourselves in the balls. Alas.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Dude literally coached a Letang-less defense to a cup in 17 and you don't want him back?

At least one of the assistants needs to be the type who challenges Sullivan, like Tocchet was. Can't have 2-3 yes men again.
There's also the distinct possibility that Martin would be much worse now. That was 7 years ago. After getting his Cups, the hunger may be gone, just like what happened with Sullivan.
Martin is 71. Is he still motivated and does he have the daily energy to coach that well again? That's asking a lot.
It would likely just end up being a nostalgia tour where everyone is too comfortable and familiar, just like the last 2 years.

 

[Tender Rip]

Dude literally coached a Letang-less defense to a cup in 17 and you don't want him back?

I said at the time, that I didn’t think we would have won it with Kris healthy. I stick by that.

 

[Gurglesons]

I said at the time, that I didn’t think we would have won it with Kris healthy. I stick by that.

Seems stupid considering we won the cup the year prior with Kris being one of our three best players.

 

[Icarium]

Dude literally coached a Letang-less defense to a cup in 17 and you don't want him back?

Sully coached that team too, you know. A lot of things can change in seven years.

 

[Pens x]

I see the local “media” attacking Smith again for not wanting to be here. Now, Dubas can dump him to another team for pennies and be praised by the local media.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

If only we could figure out how NOT to shoot ourselves in the balls. Alas.

Don't worry. Under Sullivan the shot to the balls is going to be unscreened from well out and coming at us at the speed of molasses.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I too am resigned to the fact that Sullivan will be behind the bench until HE wants to stop. It is what it is. I stopped watching this team when I was NOT resigned to this fact, but now I have moved on. Dubas is making this team interesting again. Maddening still, yes. But interesting. I don't trust him per se, but I have a little more faith that he can get the job done.

But yeah, the rest of the coaches should not be slam dunks to return. We need new ideas behind the bench, and fresh faces. An associate coach would be nice (I don't mind Vellucci, but I don't mind change here either), and for the love of Alexei Kovalev, can we get a new PP please? Nothing worked this year, which is actually ridiculously hard to do considering the personnel they had to work with.

 

[SEALBound]

Dude literally coached a Letang-less defense to a cup in 17 and you don't want him back?

Mike Sullivan won b2b cups. We keeping him too based on accomplishments 7 years ago?

He was here from 2013 to 2020. At no point were were considered a strong defensive team. I don't think it was Martin's expert defensive coaching strategy that won us 2017. I remember in 2017 having significant issues clearing the zone, especially in the Nashville and Capitals series.

I don't want retreads. At all. Unless its Tocchet but that's not happening.

 

[Gurglesons]

San Jose Sharks fire their coach before us.

Guarantee Quinn will come here.

 

[Pancakes]

San Jose Sharks fire their coach before us.

Guarantee Quinn will come here.

David Quinn looks and talks exactly like Mike Sullivan.

It would be extremely Penguins to bring in David Quinn as an assistant and then eventually fire Mike Sullivan only to replace him with.....Mike Sullivan.