GDT: Offseason 2023 Thread

[Jean Luc Discard]

I am still baffled by Carlsson being sent down with so many scrubs still up with the big team.

Zito puts a lot of emphasis on experience regardless of the quality of it. I've said this one or twice before: it's easier to break into the roster via waivers than the Panthers prospect development pipeline.

Kane isn't signing with the Panthers. iirc Zito told the press in July that he's not going to utilize the LTIR cap space because he'd have his back against the wall with trying to accommodate the return of Ek and Monty couple of months from now. If Kane wants $5mil then who do you move? Reinhart?

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

WTF?!?

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

WTF?!?

I forgot Carolina doesn't have an AHL affiliate.

Not like this really matters, he can't play for the Lightning or anything lol.

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Zito puts a lot of emphasis on experience regardless of the quality of it. I've said this one or twice before: it's easier to break into the roster via waivers than the Panthers prospect development pipeline.

Kane isn't signing with the Panthers. iirc Zito told the press in July that he's not going to utilize the LTIR cap space because he'd have his back against the wall with trying to accommodate the return of Ek and Monty couple of months from now. If Kane wants $5mil then who do you move? Reinhart?

Speaking of which, what is the reasoning for not having Ekblad and Montour on LTIR?

So Zito isn't tempted to use that open cap space?

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I forgot Carolina doesn't have an AHL affiliate.

Not like this really matters, he can't play for the Lightning or anything lol.

Are we 100% sure about that?

Johansson gets an "injury" and Kochetkov gets emergency call up?

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Are we 100% sure about that?

Johansson gets an "injury" and Kochetkov gets emergency call up?

There's no way Carolina would allow that to happen.

It's like when we shared Syracuse with Tampa in the 2021 season.

 

[HockeyRulez]

Our defense hurts my eyes. And why is everyone left handed? Who thinks this is going to go well? I realize it's an unfortunate situation to have both Ekblad and Montour hurt but this is the best we could do!?

 

[FrolikFan67]

Erod is 5'11 and 175lbs on a good day, he's smaller than that to be honest.

Solid defensively? Yes very good. Big bodied? Not so much

Good point, I was using the terms big bodied and playing a little more physical interchangeably for him, which admittedly is incorrect. That was the impression I got for him from others but if he isn’t physical either then I stand corrected haha

more importantly in this scenario, he and Barkov would provide good defensive play while someone like Kane could still do his thing and not worry too much

 

[pantherbot]

Zito puts a lot of emphasis on experience regardless of the quality of it. I've said this one or twice before: it's easier to break into the roster via waivers than the Panthers prospect development pipeline.

Kane isn't signing with the Panthers. iirc Zito told the press in July that he's not going to utilize the LTIR cap space because he'd have his back against the wall with trying to accommodate the return of Ek and Monty couple of months from now. If Kane wants $5mil then who do you move? Reinhart?

Depends on how badly both sides want to make it happen and timing. We could send a $1M contract down to AHL like Stenlund or Reilly, would give us $1.5M cap space. If Kane starts playing at half way mark, then that's $3M pro-rated.

We're not using LTIR with Ek/Monty, so it does give us some cap space to play with as the season goes. By the TDL, we could take on a $4M contract with the above scenario or if we ran with a 20 man roster could do $5-6M on pro-rated basis.

 

[ShootIt]

I've sort of been checked out waiting for the season, but any reason why they never put Ekblad or Montour on LTIR?

 

[Gentle Man]

I've sort of been checked out waiting for the season, but any reason why they never put Ekblad or Montour on LTIR?

They probably have no intention to go over the cap and have to play gymnastics in December. Most teams that massage their cap to circumvent the limit takes place after the TDL when salaries are much more pro-rated.

 

[Mogo]

Anyone notice 24th of Octobor NHL schedule? All teams play a new game starts every 15 minutes

 

[iam76]

Anyone notice 24th of Octobor NHL schedule? All teams play a new game starts every 15 minutes

is that the day espn is doing a fake redzone

 

[austropanther]

Key to having a smoother run to the POs this year is Lundell, for me. If he reaches his potential and performs offensively like he did in the POs and in his 1st season, we should be fine. It will have a positive impact on Reino as well.

Barky's and MT's line will be good as usual - with or without Bennett.

Of course the D carries a huge question mark. But rolling out one of the league's best top-9 can largely compensate for that - if Bob does not completely sh*t the bed over months

 

[JP Mick]

Speaking of which, what is the reasoning for not having Ekblad and Montour on LTIR?

So Zito isn't tempted to use that open cap space?

The season has to start first.

 

[JP Mick]

Our defense hurts my eyes. And why is everyone left handed? Who thinks this is going to go well? I realize it's an unfortunate situation to have both Ekblad and Montour hurt but this is the best we could do!?

Yes, it's the best Zito could do under cap restraints. Did you just look at the roster now after a summer of hibernation? A lot of spaghetti has been thrown against the wall in hopes of filling gaps until Ek and Monty are back. I don't think its going to be that bad as everyone thinks but they need to gell quickly. Should be entertaining at least.

 

[Dread Clawz]

It sounds like they will keep Ritchie around, either as a depth forward or in Charlotte.

 

[TotalHomer]

Depends on how badly both sides want to make it happen and timing. We could send a $1M contract down to AHL like Stenlund or Reilly, would give us $1.5M cap space. If Kane starts playing at half way mark, then that's $3M pro-rated.

We're not using LTIR with Ek/Monty, so it does give us some cap space to play with as the season goes. By the TDL, we could take on a $4M contract with the above scenario or if we ran with a 20 man roster could do $5-6M on pro-rated basis.

Kane is coming off a big surgery, looked bad the last time he played and turns 35 in a month. I wouldn't give him anything but a show me, one million dollar contract. If he lights it up, great, then you can pay him.

 

[zeroG]

Kane is coming off a big surgery, looked bad the last time he played and turns 35 in a month. I wouldn't give him anything but a show me, one million dollar contract. If he lights it up, great, then you can pay him.

a one year show-me deal is all he will accept. he has already said this. he wants to prove himself, knowing the cap is going up. he's only going to play half (or less) the season as well. I don't know if I see him signing a league minimum deal but it's not going to be 1x5, it's going to be closer to 1x1.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Zito can get Kane here at lower AAV but itd have to be with performance bonuses no?
Not saying I'd like him here, he's more of a passer and we already have enough of them.

I wonder if GMs will wait until he turns 35 on November 19th so they can use the 35+ route, lower the AAV but offer bonuses that'd carry over into next year?

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Zito can get Kane here at lower AAV but itd have to be with performance bonuses no?
Not saying I'd like him here, he's more of a passer and we already have enough of them.

I wonder if GMs will wait until he turns 35 on November 19th so they can use the 35+ route, lower the AAV but offer bonuses that'd carry over into next year?

I could see that happening. I wonder what's on Zito's mind. I think that if Kane does come here under certain conditions, I'd be ok with it. He has the potential to really help our overall depth. We need another offensive producer in the top 6, heck I'd take another one anywhere in the top 9.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I could see that happening. I wonder what's on Zito's mind. I think that if Kane does come here under certain conditions, I'd be ok with it. He has the potential to really help our overall depth. We need another offensive producer in the top 6, heck I'd take another one anywhere in the top 9.

Wasn't sure if tweet below was posted in here but sounds like Zito was heavily interested.

Two options: [1]Ekblad gone until playoffs or [2]max you can realistically sign PK for is around $1.75 mil with bonuses and you send down Samo and someone else to add up to that $1.75 mil and activate Ekblad when healthy with 400k cap space for 23 man roster?

Again, not fully on board with it but ya never know with Zito, he loves to add to this offense any chance he can.

 

[RCGP2]

Zito can get Kane here at lower AAV but itd have to be with performance bonuses no?
Not saying I'd like him here, he's more of a passer and we already have enough of them.

I wonder if GMs will wait until he turns 35 on November 19th so they can use the 35+ route, lower the AAV but offer bonuses that'd carry over into next year?

It's if he's 35 on June 30, 2023. Kane's 35+ year is next season regardless of when he signs

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

It's if he's 35 on June 30, 2023. Kane's 35+ year is next season regardless of when he signs

Ya just saw that on capfriendly. Well that idea is out the door then.

 

[KW]

If everyone reports that FLA was very interested in Kane and everybody thinks he’s coming here, of course that’s never what happens. Just watch him go to Vegas.