Speculation: Official Fantasy Trade Offers/Armchair GM Thread: 2018-20 edition

[SoupyFIN]

Vlasic would've been interesting, but don't see that happening now that we have Strålman. Even then Vlasic's term is scary.

Burns contract is buyout proof (huge do not want) and he'll be 35 by the time the season ends, signed for another 5 years.. yeah no. I said it at the time when that contract was signed, that it's a prime candidate for an amnesty buyout if we have another lockout, now SJ doesn't even have that luxury.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Are you saying they're not trading Burns because they're still in it? I don't know, looking pretty grim right now. Ten points out and I know they're capable of reversing it again but this team looks bad. EK is a tirefire and the old guys are older. Plus Pavelski is gone. It's not like it's the same old group trying to make a comeback.

Nope, just that they aren't going to trade their frenchfries dman unless some team is willing to dish out couple of first rounders (tho not high picks and/or blue chip prospects) and more importantly willing to absorb Jones' contract as well. Otherwise that would be a hard sell for their fanbase after trading away their first round pick this year upon signing EK for that huge albatross contract.

SJS is in a world of pain atm and they are looking for a dance partner Doug Wilson can fleece to save face. DW is gone unless he can pull a similar return what Sakic got for Duchene.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Vlasic would've been interesting, but don't see that happening now that we have Strålman. Even then Vlasic's term is scary.

Burns contract is buyout proof (huge do not want) and he'll be 35 by the time the season ends, signed for another 5 years.. yeah no. I said it at the time when that contract was signed, that it's a prime candidate for an amnesty buyout if we have another lockout, now SJ doesn't even have that luxury.

Norris level guys typically have a longer shelf life. I think you can pretty comfortably get three more good years out of him, maybe more. I'm not sos ure about the fit though him being an offensive d with lackluster d at times..

 

[batting1k]

I'm not sos ure about the fit though him being an offensive d with lackluster d at times..

so you’re saying the fit is perfect

 

[Beezeral]

Vlasic has been a shell of himself for almost two seasons now. Hard pass.

 

[SoupyFIN]

Norris level guys typically have a longer shelf life. I think you can pretty comfortably get three more good years out of him, maybe more. I'm not sos ure about the fit though him being an offensive d with lackluster d at times..

There's been two premier d-men (Lidström & Chara) in the past decade that have kept their performance level fairly close to their prime past 35 (Chara has regressed lately, but then again the guy turns 43 soon), the odds are against Burns. Father time spares no one.

With the league gravitating towards younger and younger players, I would rather not be stuck with an almost 40yo 8M per bottom pairing d-man or healthy scratch. Like I already said, that contract is buyout proof.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Ok how about Vatanen for that third pairing spot? No contract obligations with him.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Ok how about Vatanen for that third pairing spot? No contract obligations with him.

Would have to get rid of Matheson. He’s an upgrade in every way.

 

[IM Clutcm]

Hoffman for literally ANYTHING. Jesus f***ing Christ.

 

[IM Clutcm]

I miss Rocco, would love him back on this team.

 

[ProjectPanthers]

I miss Rocco, would love him back on this team.

I'm not going to romanticize Rocco Grimaldi, but he did always give 110% and hustled on every shift. More than I can say for many on this team.

He's having a nice season, happy he's found a home in the league.

 

[IM Clutcm]

I'm not going to romanticize Rocco Grimaldi, but he did always give 110% and hustled on every shift. More than I can say for many on this team.

He's having a nice season, happy he's found a home in the league.

Same, he certainly wasn't ready when he made the big club here, and didn't live up to our (admittedly high) expectations. But I've always had a soft spot for him, and I'm glad to see him doing well, even if it's not in Florida.

 

[iam76]

Can we please just overpay on a couple top dmen with great all around ability with leadership entanglbles and the ability to actually play d. Let's move out matheson his figure skating should be worth something or f*** it throw him at wing.

 

[GermanPanther]

I miss Rocco, would love him back on this team.

No the Way he plays current, he had a long Way to learn it in the AHL. Grimaldi spend 1 and a half or 2 in the AHL and overall he was 4 Years an AHL Player, to find a Way to play and avoiding Board Battle. That what Trocheck loves to do, and ends up heads first in the wall.

 

[FrolikFan67]

Montreal got scandella for a 4th round pick?? Are you shitting me?

 

[FinlandPanther]

Montreal got scandella for a 4th round pick?? Are you ****ting me?

He must have been awful in Buffalo becuase a year ago that would’ve been insane.

 

[HaNotsri]

He must have been awful in Buffalo becuase a year ago that would’ve been insane.

Actually he has been good this year and awful last year. Some of us hoped he’d have 2nd/3rd round value at the tdl but his cap hit is pretty high.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Actually he has been good this year and awful last year. Some of us hoped he’d have 2nd/3rd round value at the tdl but his cap hit is pretty high.

Then why did you guys give him up for a 4th? I don’t get it. I couldn’t believe we didn’t pay that tbh.

 

[HaNotsri]

Then why did you guys give him up for a 4th? I don’t get it. I couldn’t believe we didn’t pay that tbh.

To make room for Frolik.

The situation right now is still bad:
We have one of our best d stuck in AHL to keep our other d from going through waivers. Still have way too many NHL level dmen (9). In the meantime we are down to 2 top six forwards and only one real top 9 centre.

If you can make the cap work Miller should be available for less than we payed for him. Perhaps even Montour. When it comes to lhd there’s McCabe but he got the A this season.

In the AHL we have Pilut who might be our best LHD and Borgen who is a good ”shut down third pairing RHD” that would be a good option since we play Ristolainen non-stop when defending a lead right now with really bad results. See last game against you guys.

Bogosian sucks and no sane GM would pick him up. Rumour is that another dman has asked for a trade, Miller is a good guess but could be anyone except Jokiharju/Dahlin really.

You don’t have an actual 3C or top 9 winger to spare?

 

[KW]

To make room for Frolik.

The situation right now is still bad:
We have one of our best d stuck in AHL to keep our other d from going through waivers. Still have way too many NHL level dmen (9). In the meantime we are down to 2 top six forwards and only one real top 9 centre.

If you can make the cap work Miller should be available for less than we payed for him. Perhaps even Montour. When it comes to lhd there’s McCabe but he got the A this season.

In the AHL we have Pilut who might be our best LHD and Borgen who is a good ”shut down third pairing RHD” that would be a good option since we play Ristolainen non-stop when defending a lead right now with really bad results. See last game against you guys.

Bogosian sucks and no sane GM would pick him up. Rumour is that another dman has asked for a trade, Miller is a good guess but could be anyone except Jokiharju/Dahlin really.

You don’t have an actual 3C or top 9 winger to spare?

We don’t have “actual” anythings right now, to spare or not.

But “nominal” 3C - Tro or Borg. “Nominal” top-9 - Hoff, Malgin, Vatrano, Boyle come to mind. I’m not optimistic you’d want any of them?

 

[HaNotsri]

We don’t have “actual” anythings right now, to spare or not.

But “nominal” 3C - Tro or Borg. “Nominal” top-9 - Hoff, Malgin, Vatrano, Boyle come to mind. I’m not optimistic you’d want any of them?

What happened to Trocheck? He should fetch a good return from us considering age and contract. Our biggest need is C/RW so positionally he should be perfect.

Some of the other players you named should return a lot more from legit playoff teams unless they are 4th round pick+Vesey/Sheary level of cheap.

 

[KW]

What happened to Trocheck? He should fetch a good return from us considering age and contract. Our biggest need is C/RW so positionally he should be perfect.

Some of the other players you named should return a lot more from legit playoff teams unless they are 4th round pick+Vesey/Sheary level of cheap.

What happened to Tro? Trade for him and try to figure it out. He doesn’t seem to remember too often that a hockey line consists of 3 players. So if Barkov overpasses, Tro never passes.

Which was ok until his speed and shot went to hell. So please take him, good reputation, great locker room guy.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

What happened to Trocheck? He should fetch a good return from us considering age and contract. Our biggest need is C/RW so positionally he should be perfect.

Some of the other players you named should return a lot more from legit playoff teams unless they are 4th round pick+Vesey/Sheary level of cheap.

He's having a subpar season but nothing as bad as some make it seem.
He's not getting any PP points so his production is down and he missed some games earlier in the year.
His shot looks weak and has no power right now. He does have tunnel vision sometimes and tries the same play too much.

Some want him to score more but it was easier for him when we didn't have the scoring depth we have now.
Some say he never passes but he has a goal and 6 assists in his last 10 games.
Now some want him back to his 15-16 season defensively and he's actually been pretty good advanced stats wise 5 on 5

53.8% at faceoff dot
54.1% CF
54.8% FF

26 GF
21 GA

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Yandle + Hoffman for Nurse + Kassian

 

[MintyFresh88]

edit: nevermind