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Vitto79

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People should keep in mind that just because a player---say Girardi is left unprotected---it doesn't mean that he's going to be picked. I suspect that no more than two players will be lost per team in an expansion draft. That would set each of the two new teams up with 30 players each and they'd round out their rosters more or less with free agent signings.

And in past expansions when a player was chosen from a team that team got to protect another player.

Good point . I don't think many expect girardi to be picked up but it's not wasting a protected spot

I think girardi has 1 year left then he's getting bought out ideally to sign shattenkirk
 

eco's bones

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Good point . I don't think many expect girardi to be picked up but it's not wasting a protected spot

I think girardi has 1 year left then he's getting bought out ideally to sign shattenkirk

Buying out players makes it harder to sign big dollar UFA's. You start every year with a cap handicap. The Rangers almost always set aside a couple million to bring in 4th liners or spare defensemen UFA free agents. Always using up their cap space---buying out players would hurt team depth---force them to go cheaper for free agents or put guys like Megna, Gibbons or Adam in our regular rotation.

I really don't think the Rangers are going to buy out Girardi--at least not until the last year or two of his deal. I think if they decide to get rid of him---they'll expose him to the expansion draft (if they can) and failing that try their damnedest to trade him.
 

GAGLine

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People should keep in mind that just because a player---say Girardi is left unprotected---it doesn't mean that he's going to be picked. I suspect that no more than two players will be lost per team in an expansion draft. That would set each of the two new teams up with 30 players each and they'd round out their rosters more or less with free agent signings.

And in past expansions when a player was chosen from a team that team got to protect another player.

Yes, they've said that teams can't lose more than 1 player per expansion team. So if there is 1 expansion team, the Rangers can lose at most 1 player. If there are 2 expansion teams, the Rangers can lose at most 2 players.

The important thing though, whether or not Girardi is taken, is being able to protect someone more important, and being able to have Girardi's cap hit go toward the total that has to be exposed.
 

UAGoalieGuy

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I think the Rangers try to deal Nash and Staal this off-season and hold on to Girardi and expose him to the expansion draft (if eligible). If no one Claims him I think he gets bought out summer 2017. Less cap hit for less years.

Assuming none of the main core are dealt this summer, they would protect Zucc, Brassard, Stepan, Kreider, Hayes Miller and Fast up front. McD Yandle (if resigned) and Klein on D. Lundqvist in net.

Assuming it's 2 years NHL and not 2 years pro experience Buch, Lindberg, Skjei and McI would be protected.

Of course this will change depending on what the Rangers get in return for Nash and Staal as well as what unrestricted free agents they sign (and for how long) this summer.

What interesting is there was no mention of a minimum amount,of salary that had to be exposed. The article said there were some changes to the original plan the NHL had after the negotiations with the NHLPA. I wonder if that was one of the things taken out.

Edit: Girardi's buyout would be $1.11 million for 6 years of bought out next summer ( amount owed would be $10 million on the remaining 3 years).
 
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It's 2 years pro which includes NHL and AHL. Skjei is not eligible for claim. McIlrath is eligible. The NHL wants a certain amount of money to be exposed because the NHL does want some good players exposed for claim. A team might have to expose a good player or two to reach 25%. Foley is paying $500M and the NHL does not want them to be bad for a long time. Maybe the PA felt 25% is too high. They also have to determine how much salary Vegas needs to claim. Free agency for them. What pick they get in 2017.
 

UAGoalieGuy

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It's 2 years pro which includes NHL and AHL. Skjei is not eligible for claim. McIlrath is eligible. The NHL wants a certain amount of money to be exposed because the NHL does want some good players exposed for claim. A team might have to expose a good player or two to reach 25%. Foley is paying $500M and the NHL does not want them to be bad for a long time. Maybe the PA felt 25% is too high. They also have to determine how much salary Vegas needs to claim. Free agency for them. What pick they get in 2017.

I think they should be put in the lottery with the other non-playoff teams and give them the chance as the team with the worst NHL record.
 

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Will the Rangers be an upper limit team next season? If they ice a considerably younger team next season,they won't be pressing up against the cap. The smaller the payroll for next season,the less money they need to expose. They should keep Girardi and expose him. The team is not going to be a contender next season. Dave Maloney said the Rangers need to add young skill players. Trade contacts for draft picks. Trade contracts for 2nd contracts. That's been the theme all week. Significant amount of change.
 

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The new expansion teams will scout every team in the league. They will want a mix. They will want at least some experienced guys and maybe Girardi if he's available will be one but they're going take younger players and guys on the cusp of making it. I suspect they will look at salaries--bang for the buck. They'll need to get to the cap floor on the one hand but if they think someone is a bad value they're more than likely to pass----though they might also make deals--'we'll help you out and take this guy (at the expansion draft) if you'll remember us later'. So if Gorton really wants to get rid of Girardi---the team that takes him might get something else from the Rangers some time later.
 

Glennsoe

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From the trade section on the main site;

Some one posted a list of his guesses, looks like a good list.

:wings
Protected:
Forwards: Datsyuk (*NMC;UFA); Zetterberg; Nyquist; Tatar; Abdelkader; Mantha; Athanasiou
Defense: Green, Kronwall, Dekeyser
Goalie: Mrazek
Exempt: Larkin, Svechnikov, Hicketts, Saarijarvi, Bertuzzi
Exposed:
Forwards: Helm(UFA), Sheahan, Jurco, Pulkkinen, Glendening, Miller(UFA), Franzen(LTIR)
Defense: Quincey(UFA), Ericsson, Smith(UFA), Marchenko, Ouellet, Russo
Goalies: Howard, Coreau
:stars
Protected
Forwards: Benn, Seguin, Spezza, Janmark, Faksa, Ritchie, Nuke
Defense: Klingberg, Honka, Johns
Goalies: Lagace
Exempt: Dickinson, Elie, Ully, Shore, Lindell
Exposed: Lehtonen (UFA), Niemi (UFA), Goligoski, Demers, Russell, Eakin, Roussel, Backman, Sharp (UFA), Oduya (UFA), Nemeth (UFA), Oleksiak (UFA), Moen (UFA), Scievior (UFA), Eaves (UFA), Jordie Benn (UFA), Hemsky (UFA)
:isles
Protected:
Skaters: Tavares, Nelson, Strome, Hamonic, Boychuk, Leddy, DeHaan, Pulock
Goalie: Halak
Exempt: Barzal, Dal Colle, Beauvillier, Ho-Sang
Unprotected: Grabovski, Kulemin, Lee, Bailey, Clutterbuck, Cizikas, Okposo (UFA), Nielsen (UFA) Martin (UFA), Hickey, Mayfield, Pelech
:sabres
Protected
Forwards: Ryan O'Reilly, Evander Kane, Tyler Ennis, Zemgus Girgensons, Larsson, Foligno, Linus Ullmark
Defense: Zack Bogosian, Rasmus Ristolainen, Jake McCabe
Goalie: Robin Lehner
Exempt: Jack Eichel, Sam Reinhart, Evan Rodriguez, Justin Bailey, Nicolas Baptiste, Fasching(F), Nelson (D), Kasdorf (G)
Unprotected: Matt Moulson, Mark Pysyk, Josh Gorges, Cody Franson, Nicholas Deslauriers, Nathan Lieuwen, Brian Gionta (UFA),Cal O'Reilly (UFA)
:sens
Protected
Forwards: Stone, Turris, Ryan, Zibanejad, Pageau, Lazar, Hoffman
Defense: Karlsson, Ceci, Phaneuf (NMC)
Goalie:Anderson
Exempt:?
Exposed: MacArthur, Methot, Hammond, Chiasson (RFA), Puempel (RFA), Wideman, Boro, Smith
:jets
Protected
Skaters: Wheeler, Little, Scheifele, Perreault, Enstrom(NMC), Byfuglien(NMC), Myers(*NMC-voided*), Trouba
Goalie: Hellebuyck
Exempt: Ehlers, Petan, Morrissey, Copp, Comrie
Exposed:
Forwards: Stafford, Burmistrov, Thorburn, Dano, Armia, Lowry, Halischuk (UFA), Kosmachuk, Lipon, Peluso
Defense: Stuart, Clitsome (UFA), Postma, Chiarot, Melchiori
Goalies: Pavelec, Hutchinson
:blues
Protected
Forwards: Tarasenko, Stastny, Steen (UFA 2017), Lehterä, Backes (UFA 2016), Schwartz, Brouwer (UFA 2016)
Defense: Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Parayko
Goalie: Allen
Exposed:
Forwards: Patrik Berglund (UFA 2017), Vladimír Sobotka, Steve Ott (UFA 2016), Ryan Reaves, Kyle Brodziak (UFA 2016), Dmitrij Jaškin, Scottie Upshall (UFA 2016), Magnus Pääjärvi, Zack Phillips (UFA 2016), Ty Rattie, Yannick Veilleux, Ryan Tesink, Jacob Doty, Jordan Caron, Danny Kristo (UFA 2016), Patrik Cannone (UFA 2016), Cody Beach & Jeremy Welsh (UFA 2016).
Defensemen: Jay Bouwmeester, Carl Gunnarsson, Robert Bortuzzo (UFA 2017), Joel Edmundson, Chris Butler (UFA 2016), Petteri Lindbohm, Richard Nedomlel, Peter Harrold (UFA 2016) & André Benoit (UFA 2016).
Goaltenders: Brian Elliott (UFA 2017), Anders Nilsson (UFA 2016), Pheonix Copley & Jordan Binnington.
:wild
Protected F: Parise, Koivu, Coyle, Niederreiter, Granlund, Zucker, Haula
Protected D: Suter, Scandella, Dumba
Protected G: Dubnyk
Exempt: Reilly, Tuch, Eriksson Ek
Exposed: Spurgeon, Brodin, Pominville, Vanek (UFA), Graovac, Olofsson
:leafs
Protected
Forwards: Nylander, Kadri, JVR, Soshnikov, Komarov, Brown, Leipsic
Defense: Rielly, Gardner, Carrick
Goalie: Sparks
Exempt: Marner, Gauthier, Kapanen, Valiev, Lindberg, Johnson, Hyman
Exposed: Leivo, Holland, Bozak, Froese, Lupul, Marincin, Loov, Percy, Harrington, Corrado, C.Smith, S.Carrick, Bibeau, Brennan, Bernier
Horton(he will waive his NMC), Bernier(UFA), Robidas(UFA), Michalek(UFA), Laich(UFA), Greening(UFA), Cowen(UFA)
:habs
Protected
Forwards: Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Eller, Plekanec, Andrighetto, Danault
Defense: Subban, Beaulieu, Petry
Goalie: Price
Exposed: De La Rose-Desharnais-Hudon-Carr-Pateryn-Byron-Mitchell-Markov-Emelin
:flyers
Protected
Forwards: Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Simmonds, Schenn, Laughton, Raffl
Defense: Gostisbehere, Gudas, Del Zotto
Goalie: Mason
Exempt: Morin, Goulbourne, Martel, Sanheim, Konecny, Provorov, Aube-Kubel, Fazleev, Marti, Myers & Willcox will be exempt.
Unprotected: Read, Cousins, Bellemare, VandeVelde, Streit, MacDonald, Schultz, Hagg, Neuvirth, Stolarz
:edmonton
Protected
Forwards: Draisaitl, Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Maroon, Yakupov, Pouliot
Defense: Sekera, Klefbom, Davidson
Goalie: Talbot
Exempt: McDavid, Nurse
Exposed: Brossoit, Reinhart, Fayne, Oesterle, Kassian, Korpikoski, Hendricks, Letestu, Maroon, and Lander.
:pens
Protected
Skaters: Crosby(NMC), Malkin(NMC), Kessel(NMC), Hornqvist, Letang(NMC), Maatta, Pouliot, Dumoulin
Goalie: Fleury(NMC)
Exempt:Sprong, Simon, Sundqvist
Exposed: Murray, Kunitz, Hagelin, Bonino, Fehr, Wilson, Rust, Kuhnackl, Sheary, Daley, Cullen, Cole, Schultz, Zatkoff
:cbj
Protected:
Forwards: Foligno (NMC), Dubinsky (NMC), Hartnell (NMC), Saad, Wennberg, Jenner, Atkinson
Defense: Tyutin(NMC), Jones, Murray
Goalie: Korpisalo
Exempt: Milano, Bjorkstrand, Werenski, Maletta, Heatherington
Exposed: Clarkson (NTC), Karlsson, Savard, Campbell (UFA), Calvert, Boll (UFA), Johnson, Golobef (RFA), Palliota, Rychel, Dansk, Tynan, Chaput, Anderson, Zaar, Forsberg, Yvenko, Ramage, Siefers, Sedlak, Broadhurst, Gallant, Bobrovsky.
:ducks2
Skaters: Getzlaf (NMC), Perry (NMC), Kesler (NMC), Rakell, Bieksa(NMC), Fowler, Lindholm, Vatanen
Goalie: Gibson.
Exposed: Silfverberg, Cogliano, Pirri, Andersen(RFA), Manson, Despres, Stoner, Thompson (UFA), Garbutt (UFA), Perron(UFA), McGinn(UFA), Horcoff(UFA), Stewart(UFA), Santorelli(UFA), Holzer(UFA), Khudobin(UFA)
:sharks
Protected
Forwards: Thornton(*NMC, UFA), Marleau(*NMC, UFA), Pavelski, Couture, Hertl, Donskoi, Tierney
Defense: Burns, Vlasic, Braun
Goalie: Jones
Exempt: Goldobin, Meier, Roy, Bergman, Ryan, Jevpalovs
Exposed: Dillon, Karlsson, Nieto, Mueller, DeMelo (RFA), Tennysson (UFA), Ward, Martin, Wingels, Morin, McNally, Emanuelsson, Goodrow
:bolts
Protected:
Forwards: Callahan(NMC), Filppula(NMC), Stamkos, Kucherov, Palat, Johnson, Drouin
Defense: Hedman, Stralman, Koekkoek
Goalie: Vasilevsky
Exempt: DeAngelo, Point, Masin
Exposed: Bishop(*NMC,UFA), Boyle, Killorn, Garrison, Coburn, Namestnikov, Carle
:nucks
Protected:
Forwards: Sedin (NMC), Sedin (NMC), Sutter, Horvat, Baertschi, Hansen (NTC), Granlund
Defense: Edler (NTC), Tanev, Tryamkin
Goaltender: Markstrom
Exempt: Virtanen, McCann, Hutton, Demko, Boeser
Exposed: Etem, Vey, Sbisa, Biega, Dorsett, Gaunce, Pedan
:kings2
Protected
Forwards: Kopitar(NMC), Carter, Toffoli, Pearson, Shore, Mersch, Gaborik
Defense: Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez
Goalie: Quick
Exempt:Kempe, Brodzinski, Cernak, Lintuniemi, Lowry, Sharipzyanov, Leslie, MacDermid, Amadio
Unprotected: Brown (NTC), Lecavalier (retired-16)(NMC*), Versteeg (UFA-16), King (UFA-17), Clifford, Lewis (UFA-16), Nolan, Andreoff (UFA-17), Auger (RFA-17), Crescenzi (UFA-16), Sutter (UFA-16), Dowd(UFA-16), Lucic (UFA-16)
McNabb (RFA-16), Schenn (UFA-16), Scuderi (UFA-17), McBain (UFA-16), Greene, Schultz (UFA-16), Forbort (RFA-16), Gravel (RFA-17), Ebert (RFA-17), Loverde (UFA-17), Enroth (UFA-16), Budaj (UFA-17)
:nashville
Protected
Skaters: Johansen, Forsberg, Neal, Fiala, Weber, Josi, Ekholm, Ellis
Goalie: Rinne(NMC)
Unprotected: Jarnkrok, Smith, Wilson, Riberio(UFA), Fisher(UFA), Bourque, Salomaki, Scissons, Watson, Arvidsson, Gaustad(UFA), Nystrom(UFA), Jackman, Bitetto, Granberg, Elliott, Hutton, Mazanec
:coyotes
Protected:
Forwards: Duclair, Rieder, Martinook, Richardson, Hanzal, Doan, Tanguay
Defense: OEL, Murphy, Stone
Goalie: Domingue
Exempt: Domi
Unprotected: Vermette(*NMC,UFA), Smith, Dahlbeck, Connauton, Gordon, Grossman, Michalek
:hawks
Protected (8 Skaters)
Forwards: Kane(NMC), Toews(NMC), Hossa(NMC), Anisimov(NMC), Panarin
Defense: Keith(NMC), Seabrook(NMC), Hjalmarson(NMC)
Goalie: Crawford(NMC)
Exposed: Shaw, TT, Rasmussen, Ladd(UFA), Bickell, Weise(UFA), Panik, Kruger, Darling, Erhoff(UFA), Rosival(UFA), VanReimsdyk, Gustafsson, Desjardins *(Note Salary is the issue here, and even this list is "slightly" over the limit... if the salary cap doesn't rise, Panarin might have to be sacrificed to save 300K!!)
:caps
Protected
Forwards: Ovechkin, Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Oshie, Johansson, Burakovsky, Wilson
Defense: Carlson, Niskanen, Alzner
Goalie: Holtby
Exempt:?
Unprotected: Williams, Winnik, Chimera, Beagle, Richards, Galiev, Latta, Orpik, Orlov, Weber, Schmit, Chorney, Grubauer
:rangers
Protected
Forwards: Brassard, Zuccarello, Stepan, Kreider, Miller, Hayes, Lindberg
Defense: Girardi(NMC), Staal(NMC), McDonagh
Goalie: Lundqvist
Exempt:?
Unprotected: Rick Nash, Klein, McIlrath, E.Staal(UFA), Yandle(UFA), Boyle(UFA), Fast, stalberg, Moore, Glass
(*Note Salary is also an issue here)
:devils
Protected
Forwards: Palmeiri, Henrique, Zajac, Blandisi, Boucher, Smith-Pelly, Cammalleri
Defense: Larsson, Greene, Severson
Goalie: Schneider
Exempt:?
Exposed:Kinkaid, Wedgewood, Elias(UFA), Clowe, Tlusty(UFA), Ruutu(UFA), Kalinin, Josefson(RFA), Pietila, Kennedy, Farnham, Sislo, Moore, Schlemko, Mozik, Merrill, Warsofsky, Helgeson
:flames
Protected
Forwards: Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett, Frolik, Ferland, Colborne, Backlund
Defense: Brodie, Hamilton, Giordano
Goalies: Jon Gillies
Exempt:
Exposed: Wideman(*NMC,UFA), Ortio, Pat Sieloff, Ryan Culkin, Lance Bouma, Matt Stajan, Bill Arnold & Kenny Agostino, Jyrki Jokipakka
:bruins
Protected
Forwards: Patrice Bergeron (NMC), David Krejci (NMC), Brad Marchand (UFA), Matt Beleskey, Ryan Spooner (RFA), Loui Eriksson, David Pastrnak (RFA)
Defensemen: Zdeno Chara (NMC), Torey Krug, C.Miller
Goalie: Rask (NMC)
Exempt: Acciari, Zboril, Senyshyn, DeBrusk, Carlo, Czarnik, Lauzon, Hickman, Vatrano, Hargrove, Cave, McIntyre (RFA)
Unprotected
Forwards: Hayes, Connolly, Stempniak(UFA), Ferraro, Randell, Kelly, Talbot, Ferlin, Rinaldo (UFA), Khoklachev, Blidh, Griffith, Sexton, DeFazio
Defensemen: Seidenberg, John-Michael Liles, McQuaid, Morrow, K. Miller, Arnesson (RFA), Irwin, Casto, Zach Trotman, Cross, Breen
Goalies: Gustavsson, J. Smith, Subban (RFA)
:canes
Protected
Forwards: Jordan Staal, Jeff Skinner, Victor Rask, Elias Lindholm, Riley Nash, Phillip Di Giuseppe, Andrej Nestrasil
Defenseman: Justin Faulk, Hainsey(UFA), Murphy(RFA)
Goalies: Lack
Exempt: Pesce, Hanifin, Slavin, Saarela, Nedeljkovic, Haydn Fleury, McKeown, Zykov, Tolchinsky
Exposed: Ward(UFA), Wisniewski(UFA), Joakim Nordstrom
:avs
Protected (8 Skaters)
Forwards: Nathan MacKinnon, Matt Duchene, Gabriel Landeskog, Mikhail Grigorenko,
Defenseman: Beauchemin(NMC), Tyson Barrie, Erik Johnson, Zadorov
Goalies: Semyon Varlamov
Exempt: Rantanen, Bigras, Compher, Meloche
Exposed: Pickard, Carl Soderberg, Boedker(UFA), Blake Comeau, Stuart(UFA), Gelinas(RFA), Mitchell(UFA), McLeod, Iginla(*NMC,UFA), Martinsen, Holden, Matthias (UFA), Skille(UFA), Redmond, Bodnarchuk
:panthers
Forwards: Aleksander Barkov, Jonathan Huberdeau, Nick Bjugstad, Vincent Trocheck, Reilly Smith, Jussi Jokinen, Jagr(UFA)
Defenseman: Aaron Ekblad, Dmitry Kulikov, Erik Gudbranson
Goalies: Roberto Luongo
Exempt: Michael Matheson, Lawson Crouse, Jayce Hawryluk, Ian McCoshen
Exposed: Montoya(UFA), Dave Bolland, Mitchell(UFA), Savard(UFA), Derek MacKenzie(UFA), Shawn Thornton(UFA), Rocco Grimaldi(RFA), Steven Kampfer(UFA), Jakub Kindl(UFA), Alex Petrovic(RFA), Logan Shaw(RFA), Quinton Howden(RFA)
 

HockeyBasedNYC

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Im guessing we will see quite a few more NMCs signed by UFAs in July.

It may become a negotiation point for the agents because the teams who don't want to give FA's the NMC can basically turn around and dump the big contract by exposing them to the expansion draft - depending on the contract rules.


We'll have to see the rules regarding who can and cannot be protected, but its possible we could see some teams get creative on July 1st with the risky intention of taking advantage of the expansion draft by taking on 1-year "UFA rentals" with the hopes of them being claimed in the draft.

Then again if its such a bad cap hit the expansion team won't want it. Depends on the player I guess.
 

TheTakedown

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Each team can only lose 1 player per team. I highly doubt a team that signs a coveted free agent is left unprotected
 

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