[Official] Around the NHL 6.0

[Johnny GODreau]

Say we do somehow acquire Hamilton via offer sheet. What's the rules on UFA/RFA status? For example, would signing a 3 year deal (would make him 25 when the contract is done) make him a UFA?

No he'd only have played 6 seasons. To be a UFA you either play 7 seasons or are 27. Whichever comes first.

 

[Volica]

Yeah, given Burkie's stance on offersheets, he'd veto that decision if it came to it.

This is a complete misconception of Burke. He's fine with the offer sheet, he just wasn't fine with the one he got for Penner; simply because it was a ridiculous raise and it came out of nowhere. Hell, he was going to offer sheet Kessel before the trade as a bargaining tool.

Calgary should absolutely be in on Dougie. This team is honestly pretty close, I think with Bennett + another top 4 dman, we are set up for success; that plus some of the good talent we have coming up from the minors. You're talking about a top 2, sub 25 y.o that plays in all situations and has offensive talents... These don't come around too often.

 

[CraigsList]

No he'd only have played 6 seasons. To be a UFA you either play 7 seasons or are 27. Whichever comes first.

I knew that rule, was just unsure whether an offersheet just removes the RFA status.

It would have to be a 2-3 year offersheet then to keep Hamilton's RFA status since he is playing his 3rd season. If there was a player that I'd want us offersheeting, it'd be Dougie. Boston is in cap trouble, I think Dougie would sign over here.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I'd offer sheet Hamilton all day. He's already a top pairing dman, he's going to be of the premier defenceman in the league for the next decade. Even if we gave up 3 x 1st round picks, I'd do it. Especially with the depth of picks we have this year, I would totally do it.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

This is a complete misconception of Burke. He's fine with the offer sheet, he just wasn't fine with the one he got for Penner; simply because it was a ridiculous raise and it came out of nowhere. Hell, he was going to offer sheet Kessel before the trade as a bargaining tool.

Are you sure about that? I seem to recall him going on a tirade on offer sheets even when he was in Toronto.

Edit: You're right. I guess I mistook that for another rant he had haha

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[Johnny GODreau]

How about this?

Offersheet Hamilton, Feaster-like 2 years 5m Average salary (year 1 3.5m, year 2 6.5m) So the compensation would 1st and 3rd in 2016

Then trade Wideman to recoup assets? Rationale, Wideman's value has never been so high as a Flame.

Potential D-Pairings:

Gio-Brodie/Hamilton
Russell-Brodie/Hamilton
Schlemko/Wotherspoon-Engelland/Diaz
Schlemko/Diaz/

 

[Lunatik]

Yeah, given Burkie's stance on offersheets, he'd veto that decision if it came to it.

Burke has no issues with offer sheet. He will just tell the Bruins our intentions to give the player one so there is a chance to work out a trade first.

 

[Volica]

How about this?

Offersheet Hamilton, Feaster-like 2 years 5m Average salary (year 1 3.5m, year 2 6.5m) So the compensation would 1st and 3rd in 2016

Then trade Wideman to recoup assets? Rationale, Wideman's value has never been so high as a Flame.

I am absolutely on board for a nice big offer sheet like that; I'd even be okay with a 6.25-6.5 million dollar offer sheet; there's little difference between giving up your 1st, 2nd and 3rd... and your 1st & 3rd; if that's the stray that breaks the camels back, then you have to do it.

Backload the offer on a short term to set the value that you'd have to resign him for. Let's say 6.2 million: 6, 6.2, 6.4. They have all of 10 million cap to spare; have all of 10 forwards, 3 Dmen and 1 goalie signed. At 5-6.5 million; that gives very, very little wiggle room for this team.

3.5 million to spend on 6 roster players is really tough. Even at league minimums this is cutting is tight... You could bury Kelly in the minors or something for some more space... but that would be a team close to the cap with a really, really weak bottom half of the lineup.

EDIT*
As for the second part; if the season doesn't go so well, we can always trade some assets to get back into the first round. Wideman, Hudler and a couple others could get some nice big returns from teams at next years deadline, it's why I wouldn't cry about not having a few picks next season.

 

[CraigsList]

Something tells me regardless of what happens, the Bruins will match the offer. They'll find a way to keep Dougie, because they need him as their #1 guy, especially with how much Chara is declining year by year.

 

[Johnny GODreau]

Something tells me regardless of what happens, the Bruins will match the offer. They'll find a way to keep Dougie, because they need him as their #1 guy, especially with how much Chara is declining year by year.

That's why you backload the deal. So the Bruins have to give him QO of over 6.5M.


Edit: Biggest offersheet I'd offer is 2 years 12.3m (6.15m AAV) year 1 4.305m 2nd year 7.995m.

Compensation 1st,2nd,3rd. Would probably make Hamilton the 2nd most paid player on the team after Gio's Extension kicks in.

 

[CraigsList]

That's why you backload the deal. So the Bruins have to give him QO of over 6.5M.

Ah, got it. My mind is elsewhere right now

 

[GAMO1992]

 

[Taranis]

Wow that sucks for the Jets.

 

[Johnny GODreau]

Agreed that does suck. Still hoping for all Canadian teams in the playoffs. Except Oilers and Leafs.

 

[CraigsList]

Wow, what's with all of the injuries. Perhaps players are pushing themselves over the limit?

 

[GAMO1992]

Agreed that does suck. Still hoping for all Canadian teams in the playoffs. Except Oilers and Leafs.

So you mean the good ones?

 

[Johnny GODreau]

So you mean the good ones?

Basically.

 

[TheHudlinator]

No Buff helps us but man that's a big loss for the Jets.

 

[Lunatik]

MacKinnon is out for 6-8 weeks. Ouch.

http://www.tsn.ca/mackinnon-out-6-8-weeks-with-fractured-foot-1.223881

Anyone else hoping that II has these guys in the fantasy league?

 

[InfinityIggy]

Anyone else hoping that II has these guys in the fantasy league?

How nice of you.

Its worth noting that I almost traded for Big Buff a while back though.

 

[Anglesmith]

How nice of you.

Its worth noting that I almost traded for Big Buff a while back though.

I was also in talks for Byfuglien at one point this season.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

Wow, Oilers leading the Hawks in the third. I thought the game just started and did a double take when I saw they were in the third period.

 

[Johnny GODreau]

Wow, Oilers leading the Hawks in the third. I thought the game just started and did a double take when I saw they were in the third period.

Chi, tie it and win in shootout. Oilers are the Anti-Flames.

 

[supersonic jet]

Chi, tie it and win in shootout. Oilers are the Anti-Flames.

Little out 2 to 4 GMs will re access, good for you guys winning last night, we'll see how we do with out Buff and our #1 center tonight against Nashville.

 

[Gritty]

Little out 2 to 4 GMs will re access, good for you guys winning last night, we'll see how we do with out Buff and our #1 center tonight against Nashville.

Hopefully a nice regulation loss