Speculation: Offer Sheets - What would you like to see Bergevin do?

Offer sheets - What would you like to see Bergevin do next?


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bobholly39

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Based on all the rumors (and on Bergevin's own comments after offer sheeting Aho) - I 100% guarantee you that Habs are still considering more offer sheets. Maybe it doesn't happen - but they're definitely considering them now.

This poll isn't about what you think Bergevin *will* do - but rather, what would you like to see us do in terms of offer sheets this summer? Here are the options:

1. Max Offer sheet - only for a specific player (as in, only Marner, or only Point, or only Laine etc - only one of them you think is worth that)

2. Max Offer sheet - multiple players (as in - you'd be ok max-offering sheeting any/many of the top RFAs, not just one specific one)

3. Offer sheet 2 1sts ~10.5M - multiple players (as in - you'd be ok max offer-sheeting many/any of the top RFAs at this price, not just one specific one)

4. Offer sheet 2 1sts ~10.5M - only for a specific player (as in - only one specific player you'd be willing to target at that price, not the rest)

5. Offer sheet again but don't go past the 1 1st round pick price (like Aho)

To be clear - when I say offer sheet multiple players, i'm not suggesting we actually go and sign/land more than 1 top RFA. I'm just saying - if you're willing to go max-offer sheet, are you willing to pay so high for *either* of Laine and Marner for example? Or do you only value one specific player so high - and the rest lower.

Curious to see what everyone's thoughts are. I know some here will say "no offer sheets at all - trade, or tank, or UFA, etc". I didn't include an option for you here. This poll is more under the premise that we're likely going to do more offer sheets - and what price would you be willing to pay for top RFAs (it's also not about offer sheeting lower end talent at the much lower thresholds).


If you're voting for the "only a specific player" options - please say which one you mean
 

NotProkofievian

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5 years at $10M? They might not match this.

Yep. It's an uncomfortable amount especially since they have to sign connor as well, and they currently (or last time I checked) only have 7 NHL forwards under contract. It would at least put their feet to the fire.
 

Habs Halifax

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Yep. It's an uncomfortable amount especially since they have to sign connor as well, and they currently (or last time I checked) only have 7 NHL forwards under contract. It would at least put their feet to the fire.

Also noticed another strategy... Sign Conner to a slightly above market price (Aho type) and let them match. Then go after Laine.

They are looking for RD's so maybe we can dangle Juulsen, Armia, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for Laine. Not sure if they would bite but they do need a RD.
 
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NotProkofievian

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Also noticed another strategy... Sign Conner to a slightly above market price (Aho type) and let them match. Then go after Laine.

They are looking for RD's so maybe we can dangle Juulsen, Armia, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for Laine. Not sure if they would bite but they do need a RD.

Shake em until their loose change falls out.
 

Habs Halifax

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Shake em until their loose change falls out.

Some of the comments on the Jets board is Laine will be a overpaid PP specialist cause his skating is not good enough 5/5. I think we can take him on our team and he fits in well cause we are strong in one area and need help in the other. The guy can pick corners and we need this

I'm still upset we didn't draft Dorofeyev. I'll be watching him this year closely
 
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NotProkofievian

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Some of the comments on the Jets board is Laine will be a overpaid PP specialist cause his skating is not good enough 5/5. I think we can take him on our team and he fits in well cause we are strong in one area and need help in the other. The guy can pick corners and we need this

I'm still upset we didn't draft Dorofeyev. I'll be watching him this year closely

We've got a lot of playmakers and hustle-and-bustlers but nobody with Laine's god given ability to put the puck in the net. I think he fits well on our club so long as he buys in. I think he will buy in to this group.
 

WeThreeKings

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I would target Provorov.

There's a chance with how negotiations are going that the player and the team have a gap as far as how they evaluate their play.

If you give Provorov a big contract with a decent compensation, it's possible that Philly walks away because it goes above what they value him at currently as a player.
 

Habs Halifax

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We've got a lot of playmakers and hustle-and-bustlers but nobody with Laine's god given ability to put the puck in the net. I think he fits well on our club so long as he buys in. I think he will buy in to this group.

Agreed. I think our fast forwards with play making vision free up space for him.
 

Habs Halifax

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Laine is worth the 4 1st rounders without any questions, so why would the Jets be picky?

Context matters. I am not sure the Jets want to overpay Laine when some believe his value is the PP and he is not great 5/5. They are also up against the cap and need RD's. So management needs to evaluate this carefully.

Laine is a $9M player and if we had him, that's what we would be offering him as well. Are you saying he is worth more than Price at $10.5M? I think not. Jets may match 5 years at $10M but that is not 4-1st's and nobody goes higher than this. It's two 1st, 2nd, 3rd or we negotiate a trade with them or they simply match. Are you going to offer Laine more than $10.5M and make him our highest paid player?

Flyers are going to match any contract you offer Provorov unless you give him something ridiculous which nobody will. What's the leverage? They have money and cap space. I understand he would be awesome to pick up but this is a far fetched idea IMO. More than any other far fetched ideas we have been exploring
 

vokiel

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Context matters. I am not sure the Jets want to overpay Laine when some believe his value is the PP and he is not great 5/5. They are also up against the cap and need RD's. So management needs to evaluate this carefully.

Laine is a $9M player and if we had him, that's what we would be offering him as well. Are you saying he is worth more than Price at $10.5M? I think not. Jets may match 5 years at $10M but that is not 4-1st's and nobody goes higher than this. It's two 1st, 2nd, 3rd or we negotiate a trade with them or they simply match. Are you going to offer Laine more than $10.5M and make him our highest paid player?

Flyers are going to match any contract you offer Provorov unless you give him something ridiculous which nobody will. What's the leverage? They have money and cap space. I understand he would be awesome to pick up but this is a far fetched idea IMO. More than any other far fetched ideas we have been exploring
Yes Laine is worth more than Price, he's 21 years old, that's not the same age group. He'll necessarily make more money on his contracts than Price at their end of their careers. Winnipeg would be in a better position to just match whatever we send and then trade after the one mandatory year. Just like Nashville did for Shea Weber. They would definitely find partners to dance with.

I'm not too sure the Flyers would be able to do the same with Provorov if we were to overpay him in exchange for 2 firsts or even just 1.
 

Spearmint Rhino

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We are going to have to overpay in cap and in assets to make it impossible for the other team not to match

As much as Provorov would be great I don't see him as a $10MM player which is what it would take for Philly to walk

I'd rather just use the cap space to take on some cap dumps for picks/prospects and try and package Drouin for a LHD and hope Suzuki can crack the Top 6
 

Milhouse40

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One offer sheet in the last 7 years in the NHL.
Marc Bergevin is the one who made it and half the league ridicule him for doing so.

Now here we are, thinking it's a common thing.
No more offer sheet. Work a trade.
 

Ozmodiar

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9 x 5 for Laine. Give them the 2 first rounders. He’s not worth more than Aho.

I’d rather a more reasonable trade hot Ehlers. Less Cap, less assets, fits the speedy style of the team. Let Caufield fix the PP in a year.
 

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