Off-Season Thread: Free Agency & Trade Talk

[Frk It]

Thought it might be good to make one thread for overall free agency and trade updates/rumors/ideas.

Some updates from Khan today:

The Red Wings spoke with Radulov and his agent shortly after being eliminated in the playoffs and have spent several weeks doing their due diligence on the former Nashville Predators forward who has spent the past four seasons in the Kontinental Hockey League.

The Red Wings are sold on his talent but were concerned about his off-ice demeanor.

They believe signing him to a one-year deal, likely in the $4 million to $5 million range, would limit their risk, a source said. Radulov might be more motivated to prove himself and earn a longer contract and the Red Wings could part with him after one season if the move backfires.

More interesting to me was this:

If the Red Wings can move Datsyuk's $7.5 million cap hit they expect to make a pitch for Steven Stamkos when free agency starts on July 1. But if they sign Radulov they might not have enough cap space to pursue Stamkos. That also has been discussed within the organization.

Source: http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index..._interested_in_signin.html#incart_river_index
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“The situation in Anaheim is unique too. You’ve got Hampus Lindholm and you’ve got Sami Vatanen. They’re both really good young restricted free agents. That’s a financial situation as well, driving that one. It may be that Bob Murray and the Anaheim Ducks simply can’t afford to have both of those guys on their team. Well then, you better move one.

“Now, that one might be a different circumstance coming back the other way. With Getzlaf and Kesler and what they’ve got there – I’m not saying they wouldn’t be interested in a center like Nugent-Hopkins or something like that, but again, the finances come back into play on a budget team that doesn’t want to go right to the cap."

http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-...ces-driving-ducks-situation-lindholm-vatanen/

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[Vladdy84]

Move Howard, Let Helm go, LTIR Kronwall, Force Big E to retire and we got monies for both. And can trade for a legit D-man.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Thought it might be good to make one thread for overall free agency and trade updates/rumors/ideas.

Some updates from Khan today:



More interesting to me was this:



Source: http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index..._interested_in_signin.html#incart_river_index

its good to hear about stamkos but if the opposite was true and the wings brass came out(or didnt even) and say they were not interested in pursuing stamkos, then it would solidify the notion that our organizational goal is to plummet to the bottom of the leagues standings

radulov better not be signed before free agency starts, lets not handcuff ourselves before the dance has even started

 

[SirloinUB]

Thought it might be good to make one thread for overall free agency and trade updates/rumors/ideas.

A long shot but both Stamkos and Radulov would dramatically change the outlook of this team:

Abdelkader - Larkin - Radulov
Z - Stamkos - Nyquist
Tatar - Sheahan - AA

D is still questionable but that group should be able to score in bunches.

 

[Frk It]

Give me Stamkos and Radulov.

Do whatever you need to do cap-wise to make that work.

 

[Retire91]

Stamkos and Radulov mean nothing playing in front of this D.

A long shot but both Stamkos and Radulov would dramatically change the outlook of this team:

Abdelkader - Larkin - Radulov
Z - Stamkos - Nyquist
Tatar - Sheahan - AA

D is still questionable but that group should be able to score in bunches.

The team still has two questionables in the top 6 Z and Abby. It might get in the playoffs but still doesn't get past the first round and would still be going in with the worst D in the league.

 

[Shaman464]

A long shot but both Stamkos and Radulov would dramatically change the outlook of this team:

Abdelkader - Larkin - Radulov
Z - Stamkos - Nyquist
Tatar - Sheahan - AA

D is still questionable but that group should be able to score in bunches.

Larkin hasn't played much center in the NHL, there is no reason to slot him in above Stammer. Until he can prove he's effective as a center at the NHL level he's not an answer to their center woes.

 

[Ezekial]

If we were to get Radulov and stammer i would be a happy camper, I just don't see it as a reality possibility money wise.

If we were to I'd think one of Nyquist or tats was moved, I'll do Nyquist for the sake of money. Obviously Pav's contract was traded.

Tats-Stammer-Radulov
Hank-Larkin-Abby
AA-Sheahan-Mantha
Miller-Glenny-Jurco/plug

I'd have to look at it more in depth to see how the money and defense pans out, but I think that's a pretty formidable lineup and one that exceeds what we were icing last season.

Also, if we were to get Rads on a 1 year deal you gotta think it's possible Svech can slot in the following season, right? Welp, assuming he's still in our organization.

 

[chances14]

the fact that holland is even willing to pursue a guy like radulov with a troubled past seems to be me like holland is finally stepping out of his little box.

baby steps...

 

[Bench]

I can't see Holland being aggressive enough to free to necessary cap space for both. On the upside, at least that option is even being discussed. Baby steps indeed.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

whether we sign radulov or stamkos or both, so long as we still have tatar and nyquist in the lineup likely means we have not addressed our defence appropriately,

fix the defense via trade
trade datsyuks contract away
sign radulov or stamkos or both
create room by trading away howard

 

[KJoe88]

Sounds like if they miss out on Stammer (I will surprised if he doesn't resign in Tampa - to me distaste), they're going in on Radulov.

Would be amazing to have both...

 

[Bench]

whether we sign radulov or stamkos or both, so long as we still have tatar and nyquist in the lineup likely means we have not addressed our defence appropriately,

fix the defense via trade
trade datsyuks contract away
sign radulov or stamkos or both
create room by trading away howard

Yes, of course, the defense. But this team isn't going to be fixed in a summer. You fix the pieces you can, when you can. Adding more scoring talent is vastly important, too. Once you lock down those pieces then all your attention can go to the defense.

No matter what the Wings do this team isn't a contender next year. The moves you generate this summer are to give you a window in the next 5 years. Guys like Stamkos and Radulov alone aren't going to make that window open, but now you've got the next couple years to sort out a blueline on a roster that would look much more attractive to any potential first pairing defenders who might want to sign a contract or waive their NTC for Detroit.

 

[KJoe88]

Yes, of course, the defense. But this team isn't going to be fixed in a summer. You fix the pieces you can, when you can. Adding more scoring talent is vastly important, too. Once you lock down those pieces then all your attention can go to the defense.

No matter what the Wings do this team isn't a contender next year. The moves you generate this summer are to give you a window in the next 5 years. Guys like Stamkos and Radulov alone aren't going to make that window open, but now you've got the next couple years to sort out a blueline on a roster that would look much more attractive to any potential first pairing defenders who might want to sign a contract or waive their NTC for Detroit.

I agree. We gotta take advantage of what's available. Holland failed to sign Suter. He now has a chance to correct the offense with potentially two great fowards - he needs to be more assertive and aggressive.

Gradual progression. Our offense is just as important as our defense. Our offense was a bigger issue for the Wings in comparison to the defense IMO. We failed patially this past season because we couldn't score goals at a respective pace.

 

[The Zermanator]

Give me Stamkos and Radulov.

Do whatever you need to do cap-wise to make that work.

This is exactly what I've wanted for a while now. Radulov frees Tatar/Nyquist to be moved (even both if including Mantha/AA as their replacements on the wing) for a dman/dmen.

A long shot but both Stamkos and Radulov would dramatically change the outlook of this team:

Abdelkader - Larkin - Radulov
Z - Stamkos - Nyquist
Tatar - Sheahan - AA

D is still questionable but that group should be able to score in bunches.

No Mantha there. Like I said above, Radulov allows Tats/Nyquist to be moved for a D without skipping a beat on offense, freeing up a spot for Mantha (in the event both Stamkos and Radulov are signed).

This TSN article mentions several options:

- Barrie
- Shattenkirk
- Vatanen
- Trouba
- Brodin
- Lindholm

Could even swap Mantha in for Tats or Nyquist (+ the other one) to make a package if we're talking Barrie/Shattenkirk/Lindholm.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Lmao we're going to get Borodin I bet

 

[Frk It]

This is exactly what I've wanted for a while now. Radulov frees Tatar/Nyquist to be moved (even both if including Mantha/AA as their replacements on the wing) for a dman/dmen.



No Mantha there. Like I said above, Radulov allows Tats/Nyquist to be moved for a D without skipping a beat on offense, freeing up a spot for Mantha (in the event both Stamkos and Radulov are signed).

This TSN article mentions several options:

- Barrie
- Shattenkirk
- Vatanen
- Trouba
- Brodin
- Lindholm

Could even swap Mantha in for Tats or Nyquist (+ the other one) to make a package if we're talking Barrie/Shattenkirk/Lindholm.

One of Radulov/Stamkos and Barrie would be amazing.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

One of Radulov/Stamkos and Barrie would be amazing.

my dream is fowler, stamkos, enroth and brouwer(radulov i guess) with tatar, datsyuk and howard all gone

 

[Syckle78]

I can't see Holland being aggressive enough to free to necessary cap space for both. On the upside, at least that option is even being discussed. Baby steps indeed.

He will be if the directive from above is to do so to drum up excitement going into the new building. Holland had no problem making aggressive moves when there was pressure before to go hard after a quality team. We seen it in the past with moving kozlov and Ozzie to bring in Hasek. We seen in the summer of '01 brining in Hull and Luc. We seen it bringing in Hatcher and others that didn't exactly pan out. I've been saying it for years no Hollands lackadaisical approach has said a lot about the focus of illitches moving from the wings to the tigers and with the new barn I'm guessing we'll see some of that focus move back to the Wings.

 

[Ezekial]

my dream is fowler, stamkos, enroth and brouwer(radulov i guess) with tatar, datsyuk and howard all gone

That would be amazing, but Nyquist would probably have to be moved over Tatar for all of that to happen because it saves 2 million.

 

[Frk It]

please please please please please please please please please please please

 

[Chance on Chance]

Wonder how much Matt Martin is looking for. Would live a guy like him on the 4th line

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

please please please please please please please please please please please

my hope is that the oilers trade for barrie leaving shatty and fowler/vatanen/lindholm as potentially available for us

that all said would colorado deal within their conference, would anaheim deal within their division if options existed elsewhere?

barrie would easily be the most expensive

 

[Frk It]

my hope is that the oilers trade for barrie leaving shatty and fowler/vatanen/lindholm as potentially available for us

that all said would colorado deal within their conference, would anaheim deal within their division if options existed elsewhere?

barrie would easily be the most expensive

Anaheim's situation (updated in OP):

“The situation in Anaheim is unique too. You’ve got Hampus Lindholm and you’ve got Sami Vatanen. They’re both really good young restricted free agents. That’s a financial situation as well, driving that one. It may be that Bob Murray and the Anaheim Ducks simply can’t afford to have both of those guys on their team. Well then, you better move one.

“Now, that one might be a different circumstance coming back the other way. With Getzlaf and Kesler and what they’ve got there – I’m not saying they wouldn’t be interested in a center like Nugent-Hopkins or something like that, but again, the finances come back into play on a budget team that doesn’t want to go right to the cap."

http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-...ces-driving-ducks-situation-lindholm-vatanen/

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Anaheim's situation (updated in OP):



http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-...ces-driving-ducks-situation-lindholm-vatanen/

yah i saw that but i just cant see the ducks trading lindholm and sure if the ducks trade for a RNH that works too as it leaves barrie standing there but again, do the ducks need another 6 million dollar centremen?