OEL tries on 80's equipment

[North Cole]

I've always wanted to see current NHL stars play an exhibition game with old gear. It would probably look quite horrible. Of course a big part of that is that they aren't accustomed to that kind of equipment, but it makes you respect the old stars more.

I agree, but idk if it actually does. There are some people that think if we transplant today's stars into the past they would make the greats look like bums.

Haha, got into an argument with some guy that told me - human physiology has peaked and that's why today's players are better. Never got a response when I asked to see his sources.

 

[North Cole]

One Race, Every Medalist Ever

Must be the shoes

The special thing about Bolt is not his world record times. There were olympians running near 10 in the 50's....Hanh ran a 11.0s 100m for gold in 1904.

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Archie Hahn, who came to be known as "The Milwaukee Meteor," was quite small for a sprinter: 1.65m tall and only 59kg. He did not seriously take up competitive running until he was nineteen years old.
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Usain bolt is over a foot taller and obviously weighs more, but you have to imagine the difference in stride.

The real difference is that training, nutrition, sports science all contriute to not only a faster time, but more importantly longevity. Hanh only competed in one Olympic games and started training when he was 19. Now a days if you don't start at 8 or less you have no chance. Reps after reps after reps, followed by lifting weight, eating properly, proper rest and recovery.... Usain bolt competed in what, 4 Olympics? The totality of his career is what should be more impressive then running fast one time.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Actually, it is. Humans have not evolved in the past 100 years, evolution does not occur that quickly. What has changed is how technology and research has been applied to the athletes. Shoes, blocks, track,nutrition, etc all play a huge part in the quicker times.

100m sprint: How does Usain Bolt compare to Olympians across the decades?

Or that they train much, much more than the semi-pros a century ago.

 

[Eisen]

Next they should let an NHL goalie try out 80s goalie equipment. Would be absolutely hilarious to watch-especially with the absence padding to support the butterfly position...with 20 pounds of added water weight. lol

Knee caps would take damage. Better warn him first.

 

[hairylikebear]

The main advantage of a composite stick over wooden is not necessarily maximum possible puck speed, but the speed of the release.

Hull/Iafrate/MacInnis etc were capable of insane shot velocity but also took days to wind it up. A composite stick's advantages also work against you, because while the blade can bend when it hits the ice and snap forward to strike the puck, the blade flexibility causes you to lose some of the force. The puck will actually bend the blade back a little bit during contact.

If any of you have played with a wooden stick and then tried to take that kind of shot on composite, you'll notice that your shot is a total cupcake, because while a wooden stick will drive straight through the puck and transfer all of your force, hitting it with a composite blade feels like hitting it with a pool noodle by comparison. You don't see any benefit from composite unless you strike the ice first to bend the blade before contact.

OEL's shot on a wooden stick is weak because of his shooting technique. His stick blade hits the ice and loses most of its speed and bounces into the puck. If he drove the stick through the puck properly he would be able to maintain his normal shooting velocity.

The same goes for old skates too. Skating in general utilizes muscles in your ankle that you don't normally use and they can get weak if you're not skating regularly. Skates that have different levels of support will target different ankle muscles and you'll have to spend some time skating in them before those muscles strengthen to the point where you feel comfortable. Newer skates are definitely easier to skate in, but the difference is not as significant as it would seem by watching someone skate in an old pair for the first time.

 

[Saltcreek]

Or that they train much, much more than the semi-pros a century ago.

Training alone will not allow for the quicker times on this scale. It is a combination of a lot more variables.

 

[biturbo19]

OEL's stick legs reminds me of how Elias Petterson looks in modern gear. Hahah.

I mean, i've always thought OEL had kinda spindly looking legs in modern gear as well tbh. But in that 80s gear, it's absolutely hilarious looking.

 

[Anisimovs AK]

Could also just buy a whippy wood stick , I prefer old pads compared to the bulky battle armour they sell now. For sticks my favourite was whatever the yellow one was before I broke it. The response ?

Koho?

 

[57special]

Those pads that OEL were wearing looked skimpy. I had big things even back in the 60's....D pads. For,sure, in the 70's there were big,effective shin pads, shoulder pads, elbows, and gloves. Skates and sticks are the big differences. Helmets, to a certain extent, and certainly face shields and cages.

 

[SotasicA]

Would OEL even crack the NHL in the 80s? Men were made of steel back then.

 

[seafoam]

The equipment was definitely limiting 15-20 years ago, but athletes have also taken their careers much more serious from much earlier on in their lives today than back then as well.

 

[Tomas W]

As someone pointed out on our board, the pitch was probably "Liking the tournament? If you come to Edmonton, you can play in it every year".

Arizona is a pretty good team if you want to play the WHC too though.

 

[bring back the jets]

Next years all star should be a throwback game. 80's gear and rules.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Next years all star should be a throwback game. 80's gear and rules.

On one hand, it would be an amazing spectacle.

On the other hand, it would be excruciating to watch these guys try to figure out old school Tacks and wooden sticks.

 

[Seanaconda]

Actually, it is. Humans have not evolved in the past 100 years, evolution does not occur that quickly. What has changed is how technology and research has been applied to the athletes. Shoes, blocks, track,nutrition, etc all play a huge part in the quicker times.

100m sprint: How does Usain Bolt compare to Olympians across the decades?

Non natural selection can go that fast as seen in dogs . Plus nutrition at an early age can make you bigger. But its the training and food for athletes atm

 

[Panthera]

Would OEL even crack the NHL in the 80s? Men were made of steel back then.

Nope, human beings have devolved in the past 30 years to such an extent that even the best athlete today has nowhere near the athleticism, talent or even work ethic of literally anyone who played a sport back then

 

[Howie Hodge]

"Well back in my day....."

My equipment is mostly from the 70's; obviously I haven't played in years. (2005 last game.)

But I can remember playing in the late 90's/early 2000's (recreational by then) and looking at other players faces when they saw my old cooper shoulder pads, my Bobby Hull-Black Hawks elbow pads, and my 1979 Cooper pants. Like I had robbed a museum or something. My skates and sticks were newer.

They were even more surprised when I could still skate, move, and shoot better than most of them. Point is you learn how to use what you have - as mentioned in this thread earlier.

However, as someone who played a little goal (admittedly not real well), I would love to try out the new goalie equipment just once. Damn those old horsehair pads were heavy - especially when they got wet. There is zero chance I could even attempt to play today's goalie style in them though, as I wouldn't have the flexibility or strength to do so.

Cool feature, and cool thread helax!

 

[HF007]

That equipment was not even fitted for him, really biased video

 

[CartographerNo611]

So Gretzky>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crosby confirmed!!!!

 

[HugginThePost]

No phrase for "back swing" in Swedish?!

This post needs more love.......

 

[57special]

The equipment was definitely limiting 15-20 years ago, but athletes have also taken their careers much more serious from much earlier on in their lives today than back then as well.

15-20 years ago is still in the 2000's. He was wearing 80's, and it looked like early 80's equipment.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Non natural selection can go that fast as seen in dogs . Plus nutrition at an early age can make you bigger. But its the training and food for athletes atm

It can go that fast in dogs because in two decades’ time a dedicated breeder can easily roll through 10-20 generations of pups. In the same time period, you can produce 1 generation of human.

Currently, the maximum number of generations for which any family has “selected” NHL players is 4 (Howie Morenz -> Blake Geoffrion) so we’re probably looking at another 100 years minimum before genetic selection really becomes a relevant factor.

 

[seafoam]

15-20 years ago is still in the 2000's. He was wearing 80's, and it looked like early 80's equipment.

Then replace 15-20 years ago with 80's.

 

[Panthera]

It can go that fast in dogs because in two decades’ time a dedicated breeder can easily roll through 10-20 generations of pups. In the same time period, you can produce 1 generation of human.

Currently, the maximum number of generations for which any family has “selected” NHL players is 4 (Howie Morenz -> Blake Geoffrion) so we’re probably looking at another 100 years minimum before genetic selection really becomes a relevant factor.

Just as importantly, dog breeders can actually select the dogs to breed based on the qualities they want to try to pass down. Human beings have an unfortunate tendency to base reproductive decisions on things like love and financial stability instead of what will produce the highest quality superbaby.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Just as importantly, dog breeders can actually select the dogs to breed based on the qualities they want to try to pass down. Human beings have an unfortunate tendency to base reproductive decisions on things like love and financial stability instead of what will produce the highest quality superbaby.

Except for the Charas.