Proposal: OEL to EDM for Nurse+1st

[rt]

My fellow Coyotes fans are going to be angry with me for suggesting it. They’ll think OEL should get more.

I’m guessing many Oilers fans will be equally cross. They’ll undervalue OEL.

I know that he was a force in this league under Dave Tippett. He was twice top 10 in Norris voting under Tippett (playing in the pacific time zone, for the least respected team in NHL history).

The Coyotes need a change. They’ve got no cap space, no draft picks, and no hope of competing. They have to move their veteran players and try again. This group isn’t going to do it. Might as well start with the best player and work back from there.

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[simon IC]

My fellow Coyotes fans are going to be angry with me for suggesting it. They’ll think OEL should get more.

I’m guessing many Oilers fans will be equally cross. They’ll undervalue OEL.

I know that he was a force in this league under Dave Tippett. He was twice top 10 in Norris voting under Tippett (playing in the pacific time zone, for the least respected team in NHL history).

The Coyotes need a change. They’ve got no cap space, no draft picks, and no hope of competing. They have to move their veteran players and try again. This group isn’t going to do it. Might as well start with the best player and work back from there.

Value seems okay, (as an outsider), but can Edmonton fit OEL under their cap?

 

[rt]

Value seems okay, (as an outsider), but can Edmonton fit OEL under their cap?

Not sure. Maybe add Chiasson and Fischer?

 

[Prairie Habs]

Nurse only has 2 years before UFA. Would he really want to re-sign when you say the coyotes have no cap space, picks, or chance of competing?

Maybe once the league forces you to hire chia nurse will want to hang out with his old boss again though.

 

[KlefDown]

Retain like 1m and you got a deal

 

[rt]

Retain like 1m and you got a deal

No chance. Not with that term. We can add Chiasson and Fischer to the deal, if you like. Has the same effect as 1m retention but in the short term. Otherwise, just bury someone for 900k if you please.

 

[rt]

Nurse only has 2 years before UFA. Would he really want to re-sign when you say the coyotes have no cap space, picks, or chance of competing?

Maybe once the league forces you to hire chia nurse will want to hang out with his old boss again though.

He’d probably be happier in Montreal? A great team going places. Lol.

 

[Ctrain2k]

No chance Edmonton trades for a guy with that contract who’s gonna be an anchor when they’re competing.

 

[Prairie Habs]

He’d probably be happier in Montreal? A great team going places. Lol.

I hope your GM has a better argument for him re-signing during negotiations. What happens if he finds out about the 29 teams that aren't Montreal or Arizona?

 

[rt]

I hope your GM has a better argument for him re-signing during negotiations. What happens if he finds out about the 29 teams that aren't Montreal or Arizona?

Okay. Very good. Good luck bud.

 

[Mosby]

 

[Prairie Habs]

Okay. Very good. Good luck bud.

I have no clue why you are being so salty. How do you sell your team like this:

My fellow Coyotes fans are going to be angry with me for suggesting it. They’ll think OEL should get more.

I’m guessing many Oilers fans will be equally cross. They’ll undervalue OEL.

I know that he was a force in this league under Dave Tippett. He was twice top 10 in Norris voting under Tippett (playing in the pacific time zone, for the least respected team in NHL history).

The Coyotes need a change. They’ve got no cap space, no draft picks, and no hope of competing. They have to move their veteran players and try again. This group isn’t going to do it. Might as well start with the best player and work back from there.

And expect a guy to re-sign for his prime years? I was literally just using the description you had in the OP.

 

[KlefDown]

No chance. Not with that term. We can add Chiasson and Fischer to the deal, if you like. Has the same effect as 1m retention but in the short term. Otherwise, just bury someone for 900k if you please.

hmmm not sure Fischer would do it. I like the basis of this deal but would need just a little bit more coming back to actually make it worth it. we're taking on a big contract

 

[rt]

I have no clue why you are being so salty. How do you sell your team like this:



And expect a guy to re-sign for his prime years? I was literally just using the description you had in the OP.

Kay.

 

[rt]

hmmm not sure Fischer would do it. I like the basis of this deal but would need just a little bit more coming back to actually make it worth it. we're taking on a big contract

Okay. Take Fischer out. I’ll eat the Chiasson dump and bury Fischer myself.

 

[Mosby]

No idea how it would fit into this deal cap wise but you know who would be an excellent fit to play "Dave Tippett Hockey"? Michael Grabner.

 

[780il]

Too much money, no thanks. That contract looks awful moving forward.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Too much money, no thanks. That contract looks awful moving forward.

Fully agreed. It is a bet : can OEL come back to his former level ? Maybe... But if not you spend 10 per cent of your cap on dead weight (or a second line offensive Dman who has trouble scoring and defending at the moment)

 

[McDoused]

I love OEL but I'm not sure I'm willing to take on that contract. 8.25M for 8 years is a lot of money for a guy who's best years are probably behind him.

Making that kind of money he would need to put up more than the 30 points he did this year. Darnell Nurse made 3.25 (5M less) and put up 33 points.

I'm not even sure the the Oilers would do this straight up, let alone add a 1st round pick.

Obviously I like OEL > Nurse but I'm not sure I like his contract more than Nurses.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

OEL doesn't hold much in positive value at his cap hit. Questionable acquisition for free at this point.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

I know some people knocked Nurse after the Chicago series but he's still a valuable player who plays a ton of 5 on 5 minutes and is a solid contributor.

Is OEL the better player? Yeah I think so.

Is the difference enough to justify the salary difference plus the risk of that type of long term deal? Maybe not really sure on that one but it's worth thinking about.

But once you throw in the 1st round pick it's an easy pass for me. OEL could be an upgrade but he's also not an ideal target for a position of need now or going forward.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

Would the Coyotes do Ghost + 1st?

 

[Captain Mountain]

I really don't see this making a ton of sense for Edmonton. OEL is definitely better, but he hasn't looked his best lately. And Edmonton kind of needs every bit of its cap space to make upgrades elsewhere on its roster. If the deal doesn't pan out, Edmonton is in a difficult position until/unless guys like Bouchard/Lavoie can give them depth in areas to make moves.

He’d probably be happier in Montreal? A great team going places. Lol.

The **** does Montreal have to do with this?

 

[Heldig]

Would the Coyotes do Ghost + 1st?

No, I dont think so. Part of the thinking for the Coyotes is getting a player like Nurse - big and mean. Coyotes are soft.

 

[LTIR]

Without retention there would be no 1st rounder attached from EDM side.