Movies: Ocean's 8 (Female cast)

[rbochan]

Yes, we don't want contemporary art to be a reflection of contemporary society. That would be just wrong.

Even not having seen it, you can be pretty safe to not call this "art". I wouldn't call the original remake(!) "art" either. It was just flat out entertainment. If they keep it at that, it could be fun.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Well Hollywood is under scrutiny for pandering to the white male crowd for so long so its completely OK to do it the other way now right? Instead of just making good movies with good actors lets make sure we discriminate even more because the only way to fight discrimination is to perform discrimination in the opposite direction.

exactly.
just make good movies, and go from there.

 

[MXD]

That cast is...
I don't know what to say. It's either a great cast. Or a terrible one.

 

[Pilky01]

Im waiting for the think pieces on how its sexist that the female Oceans 11 is focused on a fashion show instead of like, the Hadron collider or the IMF or something.

 

[Neutrinos]

I'm down for a well-made caper film

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

I dunno... looks good to me

 

[The Nemesis]

I remain somewhat opposed to this movie solely on the admittedly flimsy grounds that it's employing someone who is choosing to go by the ridiculous internet handle of "awkwafina" in all the promotional material. I mean, Rihanna is going by one name too, but at least it's her real damn name.

 

[Player big P]

I remain somewhat opposed to this movie solely on the admittedly flimsy grounds that it's employing someone who is choosing to go by the ridiculous internet handle of "awkwafina" in all the promotional material. I mean, Rihanna is going by one name too, but at least it's her real damn name.

She was in that second Neighbors movie, which I don't know why I watched, but holy shit she was insufferable. She was in it for like, maybe 10 minutes total and she's pretty much the only thing I remember because she was really that bad.

 

[The Nemesis]

She was in that second Neighbors movie, which I don't know why I watched, but holy **** she was insufferable. She was in it for like, maybe 10 minutes total and she's pretty much the only thing I remember because she was really that bad.

Insufferable seems to be the default mode for a lot of youtube 'comedy' stars.

 

[RandV]

With these 'all-female cast remakes' becoming a thing now, with the often hilarious/sad reactions on the internet, makes me wonder how a movie that is not part of an existing franchise that just legitimately has an all-female cast will be recieved in contrast. I'm talking specifically about Annihilation here, which comes out in February. Theatrical release has already been cut done so it will only be in theaters in US, Canada, and I think Korea, with the rest of the world getting it on Netflix.

 

[discostu]

I'm down for a well-made caper film

This.

A female driven caper movie differentiates it from other caper movies, as did the working class element in Logan Lucky did for that movie.

Sandra Bullock seems to be a good choice as the lead here. She's funny enough on her own, but will be able to play against the wackier characters.

Like all heist films, if it's a good script, it will work.

 

[Ozz]

Can't wait for the all-male cast of Fried Green Tomatoes.

 

[The Nemesis]

Can't wait for the all-male cast of Fried Green Tomatoes.

I think that was called The Expendables.

 

[beowulf]

Ok so they make an all woman's Ocean's film, fine. But they have to kill Dany Ocean off? Or maybe he is faking it?

Not liking that it starts exactly like Ocean's 11.

What's a Awkwafina?

 

[dogbazinho]

Oh good another movie immune to criticism.

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

Heist movies are fun. This is a good cast. Looks promising.

Ocean's 11 ain't exactly sacred text. Lighten up, my dudes.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

The “all-female version of” movies are probably always going to suck, not because they contain an all-female cast, but because its such a blatant hack gimmick.

The world would be better served if this were the last one ever, and the ladies stuck to developing new IPs.

 

[Beantown Beatdown]

When does the all female version of Magic Mike come out?? Or is Magic Mike the all male version of Showgirls and thus the loop is complete?

 

[izlez]

The “all-female version of” movies are probably always going to suck, not because they contain an all-female cast, but because its such a blatant hack gimmick.

The world would be better served if this were the last one ever, and the ladies stuck to developing new IPs.

We're talking about the 7th remake/sequal of a god damn shitty caper film. The blaming women/feminism for "forcing" something that "has" to be women is absurd.

Hollywood hasn't had an original idea in years. Getting upset because a remake has a woman in it is god damn weird

 

[Player big P]

When does the all female version of Magic Mike come out?? Or is Magic Mike the all male version of Showgirls and thus the loop is complete?

Fun fact: the Czech name for the Magic Mike movies translates to "Without Pants."

 

[Shareefruck]

I consider myself pretty progressive leaning (or at least anti-conservative), but I don't agree with many of these progressive arguments/justifications at all, personally. Making a movie purely to "pander" to a certain ideology is a bad idea even if that ideology is a favorable/morally just one. It's pretty clearly a gimmicky and ham-fisted attempt to capitalize on that, and it sure doesn't feel like it's being done with much sincerity/care. Even if it's a good idea morally (could go either way on that one), it's probably going to be an awful movie if it's made under those pretenses. And that has nothing to do with the talent of the actresses.

I don't understand the optimism people have for these kinds of projects. Yes, equally terrible male-equivalents of these kinds of things exist (like many of the male-dominated Oceans sequels), but those rightfully get eye-rolled at for being pretty uncreative and gimmicky as well, and this is just that with an extra layer of hackery, questionable motive, and reason to be skeptical added on top of that.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

We're talking about the 7th remake/sequal of a god damn ****ty caper film. The blaming women/feminism for "forcing" something that "has" to be women is absurd.

Hollywood hasn't had an original idea in years. Getting upset because a remake has a woman in it is god damn weird

I'm not upset, I just think it's the hack gimmick du jour. If you read my post carefully, you'll discover that I don't have any problem with women in remakes or all-female casts. I have a problem with dumb, lazy ideas.

It's like movies that have talking babies in them. If I say that talking baby movies are a blatant hack gimmick, that doesn't mean I'm upset or think that babies shouldn't be in movies, it just means I think it's a dumb, lazy idea. Hollywood has a lot of them, but this is probably the most prevalent one right now.

 

[Ozz]

I consider myself pretty progressive leaning (or at least anti-conservative), but I don't agree with many of these progressive arguments/justifications at all, personally. Making a movie purely to "pander" to a certain ideology is a bad idea even if that ideology is a favorable/morally just one. It's pretty clearly a gimmicky and ham-fisted attempt to capitalize on that, and it sure doesn't feel like it's being done with much sincerity/care. Even if it's a good idea morally (could go either way on that one), it's probably going to be an awful movie if it's made under those pretenses. And that has nothing to do with the talent of the actresses.

I don't understand the optimism people have for these kinds of projects. Yes, equally terrible male-equivalents of these kinds of things exist (like many of the male-dominated Oceans sequels), but those rightfully get eye-rolled at for being pretty uncreative and gimmicky as well, and this is just that with an extra layer of hackery, questionable motive, and reason to be skeptical added on top of that.

People want to feel important/better than others, like they're changing the world, like it makes a difference, etc. And like-minded people as a whole, once anything aligns with their opinions, tend to not care about anything other than to be able to cheer it on. People don't care to be objective, they want to "be right".

 

[discostu]

Every franchise reboot or relaunch has some "hacky" gimmick. Yet, franchise films still dominate the box office. Where the talent comes in is taking some rehash, and making something unique out of it through a strong script.

The response that women should make their own franchises is a ridiculous charge, as audiences have shown they rarely consider a movie unless they have some knowledge of the IP behind it. It would be great if original films had as much chance to succeed at the box office, but that's not the reality we live in.

If there is to be a big budget female driven heist film, this is the only way it gets made.

 

[snowden]

Just as long as it's better than Ocean's 12