OP is in no way a Stars fan. I`m actually rooting for Canes and Panthers. I follow all Finnish players close though. I just thought Hintz would be a good fit on Rangers to help Kakko fit in with language etc. Kakko as known isnt very good at english and Roope could help him a lot. I also think a 6`3" 220p young fast center would be good . It also certainly would help Stars a bit with the cap, while not downgrading too much at C, thus both teams could benefit from the trade.
Proposal: NYR - Stars
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OP is in no way a Stars fan. I`m actually rooting for Canes and Panthers. I follow all Finnish players close though. I just thought Hintz would be a good fit on Rangers to help Kakko fit in with language etc. Kakko as known isnt very good at english and Roope could help him a lot. I also think a 6`3" 220p young fast center would be good . It also certainly would help Stars a bit with the cap, while not downgrading too much at C, thus both teams could benefit from the trade.
I beg to differ, and certainly not at the cost of a 1st on top of our center
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ok sorry i misread your Hintz expertise as Stars-based,
anyway NYR do not need to pay high price to fix C depth urgently, and not motivated to move Chytil,
or to spend extra first for incremental upgrade (ie sweeten offer of high potential emerging young C for a more proven slightly older, more expensive high potential C )
if/when NYR bring in a new C, I expect NYR to add to their C depth of Zib & Chytil
Pavel Buchnevich
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Why can't the Rangers keep Chytil and see if he can be a 2C this season? I don't see why we need to rush to get rid of him without giving him a chance to play that role.
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Which is a good thought, but I don't agree that Hintz is worth more to the Rangers than Chytil moving forward. They can find another Finnish player to fill the void you mentioned.
All of the above.
Don't see Stars so abundant in pivot depth they are keen on moving Hintz or Gurianov, for example. I get the whole getting ahead of the cap thing.
That would have to be settled by a vet for a vet deal, and while ADDING not substituting as was emphasized above at pivot is a target, it is hard, not impossible but hard to see a deal. I mean given we are also looking to move vets to reduce cap.
Chytil is off the table unless a team like DET is willing to overpay and end result provides strategic benefit to Rangers.
One Winged Angel
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I’d rather just stick with Chytil and I’m definitely not giving up a 1st on top of Chytil for Hintz, who isn’t a big enough of an improvement going forward to warrant giving up a 1st rounder and I like Hintz.
I also doubt Dallas would want to get younger with them being in a more win now mode than the Rangers.
I also doubt Dallas would want to get younger with them being in a more win now mode than the Rangers.
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No from the Stars because they are looking at contending now and don’t want to risk it on Chytil because he may not be ready for 2C duty next season.
No from New York because they are still building for the future and want to see what Chytil’s potential is.
No from New York because they are still building for the future and want to see what Chytil’s potential is.
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I'm not sure why everyone thinks Dallas has cap issues.
The ufas except maybe Khudobin will be replaced with internal options.
Hintz and Gurianov aren't getting a ton on new extensions, Faksa either for that matter.
But anyway Hintz is one of a few young quality forwards in Dallas they aren't going to part with him.
The ufas except maybe Khudobin will be replaced with internal options.
Hintz and Gurianov aren't getting a ton on new extensions, Faksa either for that matter.
But anyway Hintz is one of a few young quality forwards in Dallas they aren't going to part with him.
fair assessment, but NY will not make that overpayment and esp not in currency OP sought.
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He was drafted as a LW/C. The point is he's either buried on the LW, or put into a 3c role right now and that's a lot to trade away for a player not being put in a top 6 position.
Having Seguin-Pavelski as the 1-2 punch with NMC:s doesnt really help Hintz in this case. Maybe theese two have something to do with it? Hintz actually scored more goals and had more points than Pavelski this season with less ice-time...
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also why would Dallas want to upgrade on Hintz of all players who's 24 and going to the SCF as a key contributor of the team
seems like a player a contender would want to keep around
seems like a player a contender would want to keep around
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Managing the cap has always been his best quality. I think we get both Hintz and Gurianov on 3M, 3 year deals (Fiala, Lindbolm, Fabbri)
Not dissecting the value/needs, I actually think Hintz would be an incredible center for Panarin.
He’s 23 years old, big, fast, physical, tenacious on the forecheck, 52% on draws and and put up 19 goals and 33 points in 60 games playing third line minutes in Dallas (14:45 per game).
33 points sounds like very average production, but it was good for 5th on the team (despite missing 9 games - 2 points out of 3rd place) and the top scorer only had 50 points. In fact Dallas only had one player above 39 points on the entire roster, so 33 with some missed games is pretty good on a team that’s now in the SCF. In a different system, those numbers almost undoubtedly go up, and his speedy, physical game and two-way play would mesh well with Panarin (similar to what Fast did) but Hintz has far more offensive tools.
So, ignoring the actual proposal... Hintz is a guy I would truly love to see centering Panarin. I think their games would mesh extremely well. I say all this as a NYR fan who now lives in Dallas and owns a Hintz jersey.
He’s 23 years old, big, fast, physical, tenacious on the forecheck, 52% on draws and and put up 19 goals and 33 points in 60 games playing third line minutes in Dallas (14:45 per game).
33 points sounds like very average production, but it was good for 5th on the team (despite missing 9 games - 2 points out of 3rd place) and the top scorer only had 50 points. In fact Dallas only had one player above 39 points on the entire roster, so 33 with some missed games is pretty good on a team that’s now in the SCF. In a different system, those numbers almost undoubtedly go up, and his speedy, physical game and two-way play would mesh well with Panarin (similar to what Fast did) but Hintz has far more offensive tools.
So, ignoring the actual proposal... Hintz is a guy I would truly love to see centering Panarin. I think their games would mesh extremely well. I say all this as a NYR fan who now lives in Dallas and owns a Hintz jersey.
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Who said it had anything to do with the Stars? We have Zibanejad as our #1, and Strome with Panarin. If the plan is to move Hintz to play with Panarin, then Strome isn't being signed for the amount he wants and then we have a 3c hole.
No, the plan would be to play Hintz with Kakko. Ppl here have a hard time understanding? The trade is not only Chytil+ for Hintz. It`s also getting Kakko a guy who he can connect with on ice and outside. I know for a fact Kakko is quite shy and bad at english. Hintz is the opposite. He can help your #2 pick adapt and grow. Dallas need cap-help and Chytil will get paid less than Hintz. NYR need bigger bodies upfront and 2-way play. Hintz is both. Here is quite a few other factors involved than only the players that I thought about. I understand if you dont like the trade, but its not lopsided when you take into consideration everything around it.
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And where is Kakko playing in the line-up? Where not trading for Hintz to make Kakko feel whole and I didn't call it lopsided. I said the trade doesn't make a lot of sense right now.
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The Stars won’t trade Hintz. I don’t think Janmark or Perry will be back and Kivi has filled one of those holes. We have the cap to possibly sign another fwd but if not we’ve got a few kids who will get the opportunity.
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