Confirmed Trade: [NYR/OTT] Tyler Motte for Julien Gauthier and conditional 2023 7th round pick (becomes 6th if NYR win a playoff series)

[Lindberg Cheese]

Fair trade, NYR get a 4th liner they know and need. OTT get a late pick and a specimen.

 

[M2Beezy]

Tyler Motte seems like a decent guy who is open about battling his demons. I have nothing but huge respect for a guy like that, I wish him all the best

 

[TGWL]

A hockey trade went down. It's only expected that you have fans from each team telling you how shitty the player who went the other way is.

Gauthier is an RFA. If the offer is only a 4th from NYR. They can potentially make that up or come close to getting the value they wanted by trading Gauthier. That's the risk they wanted to take. Maybe Gauthier succeeds. Maybe he plays well enough to get back a mid pick. Maybe they show him the door/send him down. The 4th isn't really doing much for them right now. He's got speed. If you have others on the 4th line who already play like Motte, then you probably don't need Motte if he's not playing well.

Rangers get a player who maybe struggled this season but at least they know him. He's a better 4th line player for us.

Fans keep posting "What's so special about Motte?"
Well, guys like Barabanov, or Barbashev weren't available for dirt cheap. It's not like Motte was the best of the potentially available players. Motte was just the most affordable for a team with not a lot of cap space and not a lot of assets they wanted to give up. They gave up nothing of value here because Gauthier was never going to provide what they wanted in our organization.

 

[lawrence]

He’s gonna be a huge impact against teams like Boston and or Tampa.

 

[zizbuka]

Gauthier just can’t figure it out at the NHL level. Upside and tools are there to be an effective power forward, really strong skater. Hes normally the physically strongest player on the ice but he is soft as butter and never uses his strength. Struggles to finish

So another Kevin Hayes?

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

For some reason I am getting a kick out of there being a conditional pick in this deal lol... Potentially a 7th becomes a 6th haha

 

[bigdog16]

So another Kevin Hayes?

Hayes is a milkbag, but also has 100x the skill that Gauthier has. Gauthier is a guy who, in the weight room, would outperform 99% of the league

 

[Rsswmu]

So another Kevin Hayes?

Kevin Hayes is/was way better. At worst he was a .5 player that needed to work on other parts of his game. Gauthier is having a career year with 9 pts in 40 games.

 

[DFF]

So another Kevin Hayes?

No, Hayes can play

 

[BurgoShark]

A hockey trade went down. It's only expected that you have fans from each team telling you how shitty the player who went the other way is.

I think most Ottawa fans liked Motte. He was just never part of the long term plan. He was a late signing to replace Formenton's role for the year. If he was interested in sticking around and signing a reasonable extension I'm sure the team would have considered it. They have younger/cheaper ready to compete for that role though (plus possibly Formenton).

I don't know anything about Gauthier, but Bruce Garrioch says that Ottawa wanted to get a roster player back in a Motte trade so that they can trade Watson. Getting back a bubble player who is a pending RFA is a typical Dorion move. There is an 80% chance he is just a warm body, but a 20% chance they like the look of him and he sticks around.

 

[Machinehead]

Gauthier has overdone expectations because of his size and speed combo. If you remove that veil, he's actually a very effective 4th liner.

Despite what people will say, he actually hits a lot. He's just not mean or a pest. I guess people wish he was but he's still good at what he does.

Motte is also effective and I feel like these guys are pretty interchangable.

The Rangers like Motte so it's not surprising that they're taking him back at a pro-rated hit. I think that was always sort of the plan.

 

[Machinehead]

On the brightside, since Gauthier was traded from NY, his career will take off ala Blais, Pionk, Skjei, and a bunch of others.

Pionk still rips ass LMAO

 

[Neiler]

Happy about this one. Motte's precisely what we need on our 4th line, and Gauthier isn't.

Sens fans - Gauthier is a big, fast, straight-line skater who is excellent at drawing penalties and getting on breakaways. He is awful at getting pucks past goalies and will frustrate you with his breakaway to actual goal ratio.

He has one move on breakaways - he comes in on the left, crosses over to the right while deking and then shoots it right at the goalie. If your coaching staff works on this to the point that he can convert half his breakaways, he could be a 10 goal scorer.

That's all we need from him. We're currently operating with 10 goals total between Kelly, Kastelic, Gambrell and Watson. Watson will be gone soon and Gauthier will take his place. Then Dorion just needs to remove Parker Kelly and we'll have a functional 4th line, hopefully.

 

[Zynbanejad]

Tyler Motte seems like a decent guy who is open about battling his demons. I have nothing but huge respect for a guy like that, I wish him all the best

What demons?

 

[Barnaby]

Wish Gauthier the best. He's not bad on a 4th line, but he doesn't kill penalties. He hasn't shown enough to work himself into a middle 6 either. However, I do believe he's an NHL player. Just realize he is what he is. The size is there. The strength is there. The speed is there. The package just isn't going to come together as well as you'd like it to. I respect the fact that Gauthier never complained about getting scratched or not getting enough ice time.

From the Rangers perspective, they like Motte. He brings speed. He kills penalties. Hopefully he can stay healthy. He's a better fit for NY right now than Gauthier.

Hopefully goes down as a win/win,

 

[Hire Sather]

Motte's advanced stats will keep sucking of Jake Leschgcsen centers the 4th line

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Motte's advanced stats will keep sucking of Jake Leschgcsen centers the 4th line

That won’t last long

Cuylle-Goodrow-Motte should be the 4th line.

Leschyshyn is ass. Does absolutely not well.

 

[Hire Sather]

That won’t last long

Cuylle-Goodrow-Motte should be the 4th line.

Leschyshyn is ass. Does absolutely not well.

Coaches f*** up 4th lines all the time.

 

[Siludin]

Motte's a good player. The Rangers made some good acquisitions up front.

 

[Baby Punisher]

Tyler Motte seems like a decent guy who is open about battling his demons. I have nothing but huge respect for a guy like that, I wish him all the best

Demons? What demons?

 

[Breaded Fox]

Demons? What demons?

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I think most Ottawa fans liked Motte. He was just never part of the long term plan. He was a late signing to replace Formenton's role for the year. If he was interested in sticking around and signing a reasonable extension I'm sure the team would have considered it. They have younger/cheaper ready to compete for that role though (plus possibly Formenton).

I don't know anything about Gauthier, but Bruce Garrioch says that Ottawa wanted to get a roster player back in a Motte trade so that they can trade Watson. Getting back a bubble player who is a pending RFA is a typical Dorion move. There is an 80% chance he is just a warm body, but a 20% chance they like the look of him and he sticks around.

Gauthier is not bad. He's a 4th liner/13th type forward guy that has speed and size. Sometimes he surprises you and sometimes he is invisible. He does play a north/south game and finds himself near the net a lot but doesn't finish often. He does draw penalties though. He's an RFA who is arbitration eligible but not a bad trade for Ottawa.

 

[Tob]

NOooooOoOoo! Look at the graph! It has bar graphs, don't rely on your observations and decades of watching hockey to make up your mind! Even if both players have recently played for your team and you know them well, just focus on the minus plus signs and the decimal points!!!1!! You can't just decide if a player could be good without going to war on ice and evolving wild websites!!!

 

[Karl Eriksson]

hoping the 7th becomes a sixth !

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Gauthier > Motte

Rangers must feel Motte can offer them something particular that Gauthier does not. Seems like an add trade. Motte was a good fit with the rangers when he was there so maybe that is what they’re banking on?

No he isn't. Motte is better on the forecheck, has a better motor, can PK, plays better defense, and has a higher hockey IQ. They both had 9 points this year so that's a wash. I don't hate Gauthier at all and wish him well but Motte is the better all around player and better fit.