Proposal: NYR - CAR

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Terrible value for Canes. No surprise

 

[TGWL]

you may be right on those specs, but just fyi
according to NYR official site, it is 16 points in 44 games
last season was AV fup
more significantly,

he has a track record for the eye test given he played first line very well with Stamkos.

His production now is nowhere near that but he is not playing w/top line guys either, let alone a Stamkos level pivot

There's room for improvement on the +/-, but it is fair to say a good chunk of that is on our D.


As to best of the known commodities, I would prefer righty Strome, former 5OA, who has disappointed relative to that, tho fair explanation is him playing on less than stellar teams.
Strome has played well of late and suggests a solid add.
He recently said to effect he prefers vision of pivot as to W

Names + Strome help CAR in pivotal pivot area.

Here's the problem with all of that. No GM overpays for a player who needs to be carried by other skill players, while having the thought process of playing them with their top players. Canes aren't pushing players in their line-up down just to see how Namesnikov can be carried by their skilled players. He's feisty, but he's not a player you go out of your way to invest in. He's a player who will get bumped all over the line-up because he's inconsistent and needs to rely on others to produce.

Why do Canes even need Strome? Are you trying to sell him as a former first round pick? He's a solid bottom 6 in my opinion but he's not worth a top prospect. Seems more like you're trying to pounce on taking back Darling's cap hit as a way of making Canes fall for the idea.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

In Bern language, he meant all 3 players = 9.45 million.

He really needs to use parentheses. PEMDAS. It’s simple math, really.

 

[Shootertooter]

herd mentality
if it were that simple that deal would be done already
CAR does not want Fox for UFA

Namest, 4.0 x 2 reduced by half to 2.0 + Strome 3.1 x 2 + Smith 4.35 x 3 = 9.45
for
McKeown .745 expiring with RFA + rights to unsigned Adam Fox + TVR 2.3 x 2 + cap dump Darling 3.125 current then 3.075 x 2 +
cap hit = 6.170
total cap dif is 9.45 - 6.17 = 3.28 savings to Rangers, not negligible but that is part of the deal, CAR still has over 10m cap after the trade.

Canes get the 2 best players atm, Fox an x factor. Canes have a glut of RD, but McK and Fox are not on the roster and TVR is behind Pesce, Hamilton + Faulk at RD and Smith who is consistent only as to toughness and unreliable otherwise, is your 7th; he's a lefty who plays right side, so no immediate loss as to NHL RD roster, no current depletion of LD by Carolina, with Smith actually a reserve option for LD,
The 4+m Smith costs is offset by 3+ from taking on Darling + 1m on half of Namest.
Carolina gets more immediate production now in the area of need, F.

Rangers get some immediate help in their area of need, RD, but the gamble is on Fox, who we are taking on faith will sign with us, and who we trust is a real blue chip material/upside. Darling is now an epic fail but there is an outside chance goaltending guru Benoit Allaire might return him to form. If that happens and he can be flipped somehow next year, fine, if not, we bury him in the A.

This helps thin NY's excess at pivot, which helps give more mins to those remaining both improving familiarization with Coach Q's system and, with a thinner roster, helps make us tireder for balance of season = more losses = better shot for post season draft.

NY gets cap relief and Canes get F boost without surrendering any picks

Once again people disagreeing with your proposal is the "herd mentality"? It has nothing to do with the fact that it is a terrible proposal where the Canes give up the 3 better pieces and take Smith back.
What is it called when your proposals are as consistently bad as they all seem to be and only you think they make any sense?

The word "tireder" seems the most well thought out thing in that whole proposal.

 

[GoldiFox]

Too many moving parts Bern , keep it simple . Zuuc for Fox

Why would the Canes deal a top prospect for a rental?

What's with the proposals recently that amount to Carolina handing away Adam Fox for free? The kid is a top prospect in the NHL, the Canes will at least try to sign him first. The reports coming out of this year state that Fox wants to be in the NHL next year. Only the Canes can give him that, unless another team offers something compelling. Waiver fodder and bottom-6 centers are not compelling.

 

[frisland]

simpler nyr-car trade would be bean or kuokkanen and a pick for Zucc

 

[GoldiFox]

simpler nyr-car trade would be bean or kuokkanen and a pick for Zucc

Carolina Hurricanes Playoff Chances - Sports Club Stats

Canes have a ~22% chance of making the Playoffs. They are on the outside looking at Pittsburgh and Boston in WC spots. They are one of the most unlikely teams in the entire league to give up one of their best prospects for a rental.

 

[Kupo]

feel free to provide analysis proving why

anyhoo,
real world requires me now
til this pm...

Analysis? We're acquiring a premium blue chip prospect but a combination of horse ****. What does Names do for Carolina? 16 points in 44 games. Strome? Really?

And Smith.. One of the worst contracts in the league considering he sucks ass? And Carolina gets him at full pop for the next two season's?

Bern there's a reason why every single Canes & Rangers fan is telling you this offer is atrocious. Just take this loss (again) and go back to the drawing board where you can work on your next failure of a proposal.

 

[Gardner McKay]

And... we are done here.