Confirmed Trade: [NYR/CAR] Maxim Letunov for Tarmo Reunanen

[L4br3cqu3]

Sorry folks, this trade is null and void. Deadline was last week.

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Teams can still trade players, they just can't play them in the NHL for the remainder of the season or the playoffs, just in the AHL.

Not surprised you didn't know that.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Teams can still trade players, they just can't play them in the NHL for the remainder of the season or the playoffs, just in the AHL.

Not surprised you didn't know that.

It's easy to not know, I think.

 

[Kahvi]

1) Reunanen scored a point in four different leagues last season (Liiga, Mestis, AHL, NHL)
2) Carolina really likes to draft and trade Finns

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

1) Reunanen scored a point in four different leagues last season (Liiga, Mestis, AHL, NHL)
2) Carolina really likes to draft and trade Finns

That's probably why they traded for Kotkaniemi, because they want to Finns that much.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

It's easy to not know, I think.

I agree, but the poster I replied to was a bit too snarky in his unknowing.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I agree, but the poster I replied to was a bit too snarky in his unknowing.

Ah, snark. One of those posts.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Pretty bad asset management by the Rangers, as usual. could have traded Reunanen for 3rd rounder a year or 2 ago.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I thought Letunov was a promising prospect several years ago. Anyone want to summarize how his development went?

Can't speak to his whole development but he's a fine AHL depth guy. Kinda ok at everything but doesn't stand out at anything.

 

[TGWL]

First post-deadline trade I've actually witnessed. I've watched hockey for years, but these kinds of trades I have not seen even once.

It's not a post deadline trade. AHL trade deadline was yesterday.

 

[TGWL]

Pretty bad asset management by the Rangers, as usual. could have traded Reunanen for 3rd rounder a year or 2 ago.

2 years ago we had no clue the depth would look like Schneider, Lundkvist, Jones, Robertson. Miller just got out of college.

If you go back last year, that's still before Schneider wins WHL dman of the year award, Lundkvist wins best Swedish dman, and Jones comes over form college. Throw in that the last thing we needed was more 3rd round picks with all the prospects we were drafting and that wouldn't have made much of a difference. This really wasn't bad asset management. If anything Reunanen would have been involved as one of the prospects included in a bigger trade.

 

[Mersss]

@bernmeister I thought Reunanen was a solid D prospect with top4 potential??? Guess youe Bluest blue chipepes aren't as blue as you thought

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Pretty bad asset management by the Rangers, as usual. could have traded Reunanen for 3rd rounder a year or 2 ago.

It truly is amazing how acute your hindsight is...

 

[TGWL]

@bernmeister I thought Reunanen was a solid D prospect with top4 potential??? Guess youe Bluest blue chipepes aren't as blue as you thought

He had the tools or the potential tools to be a low 2nd/3rd pairing player. (Not saying he was a lock to make it) Reunanen had 17 point in 21 AHL games last year after having a few years of injuries. This year we've had Schneider, Jones, Robertson and Lundkvist all playing in the AHL and they either have or are projected to have a bigger future with the organization.

He had a lot of injuries early on and then pretty much became a solid 2-way defender for the AHL. Whether he finds his way to the NHL or not, we didn't have a spot for him. Nobody should have ever called him a blue chip piece.

 

[bernmeister]

@bernmeister I thought Reunanen was a solid D prospect with top4 potential??? Guess youe Bluest blue chipepes aren't as blue as you thought

As is the case more often than not, you are wrong in your jibes vs me.
As to this particular instance,
1. Reunanen was WAY WAY WAY behind on depth chart b'c NY has crazy surplus of young D, incl LD, so he has to go,
suitors know that, and insist on a discount at sq 1.
2. He is a good prospect and while not the taller 6'4"/+ size Kings are looking for, LA should have offered a mid pick and NY should have taken it, but it takes 2 sides to tango.
3. Not thrilled he is going to div rival CAR, but the return is useful, with outside chance he is a late bloomer, and even if that is only bottom 6, fine, those slots gotta be filled too.
4. In sports mgmt incl hockey, sometimes this imbalance happens. Vatrano is obv worth more than 4th NY paid to FL for him, but Panthers urgent bordering desperate for cap for Giroux addition. Reunanen worth more but circumstances make expediency desirable.

No one said R was in same strata as NIls L, Jones, etc.
So your slam vs my bluest blue chip remarks is again hollow.

Esp when contrasted w/reality that everybody wants NYR bluest blue chips in all these threads,

 

[bernmeister]

He had the tools or the potential tools to be a low 2nd/3rd pairing player. (Not saying he was a lock to make it) Reunanen had 17 point in 21 AHL games last year after having a few years of injuries. This year we've had Schneider, Jones, Robertson and Lundkvist all playing in the AHL and they either have or are projected to have a bigger future with the organization.

He had a lot of injuries early on and then pretty much became a solid 2-way defender for the AHL. Whether he finds his way to the NHL or not, we didn't have a spot for him. Nobody should have ever called him a blue chip piece.

concur, thank you for solid post w/informative detail

 

[Mersss]

As is the case more often than not, you are wrong in your jibes vs me.
As to this particular instance,
1. Reunanen was WAY WAY WAY behind on depth chart b'c NY has crazy surplus of young D, incl LD, so he has to go,
suitors know that, and insist on a discount at sq 1.
2. He is a good prospect and while not the taller 6'4"/+ size Kings are looking for, LA should have offered a mid pick and NY should have taken it, but it takes 2 sides to tango.
3. Not thrilled he is going to div rival CAR, but the return is useful, with outside chance he is a late bloomer, and even if that is only bottom 6, fine, those slots gotta be filled too.
4. In sports mgmt incl hockey, sometimes this imbalance happens. Vatrano is obv worth more than 4th NY paid to FL for him, but Panthers urgent bordering desperate for cap for Giroux addition. Reunanen worth more but circumstances make expediency desirable.

No one said R was in same strata as NIls L, Jones, etc.
So your slam vs my bluest blue chip remarks is again hollow.

Esp when contrasted w/reality that everybody wants NYR bluest blue chips in all these threads,

Except, beside Schneider, non of these guys are A grade prospects. That's what you do not seem to understand. Nils, Jones, small Offensive dman who disapera when it gets physical, Tyson Barrie type of D at best,

 

[cwede]

... Nils, Jones, small Offensive dman who disappear when it gets physical, Tyson Barrie type of D at best,

I read this as (on-brand) uninformed jumping to conclusions.
glad to revisit in 2-3 seasons, when their time in NA pro is more than a few months

 

[Mersss]

I read this as (on-brand) uninformed jumping to conclusions.
glad to revisit in 2-3 seasons, when their time in NA pro is more than a few months

Both Jones and Lundkvist are small offensive minded dman with limited defensive talent.

They may end up being 50-60pts dman, but their terrible defensive play and small stature will make then liabilities come playoff time. Hence why Habs prefered a guy like Barron

 

[cwede]

Both Jones and Lundkvist are small offensive minded dman with limited defensive talent...their terrible defensive play and small stature will make then liabilities come playoff time....

yes that opinion was shared in your prior post
doesn't jive with much of my observations at multiple levels
Jones especially has good positioning, defensive smarts and aggressive backcheck
Nils is patient and savvy, and can play the man off the puck, or out of the play, as well as play the developing play

anyway, these conclusions need not be made and sealed now,
seems the objective path may be to revisit in a couple years, rather than so soon
cheers

 

[DaveG]

Post-deadline trades are always fun.

That's about all I can contribute on this one because I literally had no f***ing idea which guy got traded to which organization.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Post-deadline trades are always fun.

That's about all I can contribute on this one because I literally had no f***ing idea which guy got traded to which organization.

I'm not sure either was told he was traded either.

 

[bernmeister]

Except, beside Schneider, non of these guys are A grade prospects. That's what you do not seem to understand. Nils, Jones, small Offensive dman who disapera when it gets physical, Tyson Barrie type of D at best,

sez you
same size as Fox, approx
we'll see

 

[Mersss]

sez you
same size as Fox, approx
we'll see

And fox is average defensivelly. He's elite offensivelly, but not a top20-30D-man defensivelly in the NHL

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

Both Jones and Lundkvist are small offensive minded dman with limited defensive talent.

They may end up being 50-60pts dman, but their terrible defensive play and small stature will make then liabilities come playoff time. Hence why Habs prefered a guy like Barron

Tarmo would be a top pairing D on the Habs.

 

[spockBokk]

Apparently he scored on his very first shift with the Wolves:



Canes win the trade hands down