Confirmed with Link: Nyquist re-signed for 4 years

HockeyinHD

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it's not exclusively RFA deal (nor UFA) deal. RFA deal only has RFA years on it and would remove many comparables. someone like johansen should be paid much more but has only RFA years on his deal and thus isn't paid more.

That is a silly distinction to make. We both know that being an RFA rather than a UFA has an downward impact on AAV, and that buying into those UFA years has an upward impact on AAV for obvious reasons. Many and perhaps nearly all of the guys who are making more than Nyquist are doing so in no small part because they are on contracts that buy farther into their UFA eligibility than Nyquist's deal does, so if you are comparing AAV's for those types of player and you are not taking that into account you are doing a poor job at accurately comparing them.

so... nyquist's 2 year contract extension in 2013 didn't happen?

Not as an NHL player, no it didn't. It'd be like counting Jensen's deal as his second RFA contract. If you aren't an NHL player yet we're talking apples and oranges in the contract department.

he's not on par with absolute best RFAs because then we'd have to include dman and goalies and there are many who make more than him.

Which is why we're talking about RFA forwards. You're trying to hide behind distinctions and exceptions that don't exist in an honest comparison at a position.

ok, i guess that depends on the definition of 'on par with absolute best'.. so if it's at the top 20% or so, yeah i guess he is.

If you're easily getting paid in the top 20 of RFA forwards, unless you're trying to say there are only 100 RFA forwards in the NHL he's rather higher up the chain than "top 20% or so". More like top 5-10%.
 

InjuredChoker

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That is a silly distinction to make. We both know that being an RFA rather than a UFA has an downward impact on AAV, and that buying into those UFA years has an upward impact on AAV for obvious reasons. Many and perhaps nearly all of the guys who are making more than Nyquist are doing so in no small part because they are on contracts that buy farther into their UFA eligibility than Nyquist's deal does, so if you are comparing AAV's for those types of player and you are not taking that into account you are doing a poor job at accurately comparing them.

and who are all these guys you actually comparing nyquist's contract to? show a list of guys who you're comparing to. names brought up in here are getting paid more and in most cases deservedly so.

those other guys are getting so much more money, like couture, that making nyquist's contract a 6 year deal, wouldn't have made him 6 million dollar player because his UFA years aren't worth 7+ mil.

and of those guys i listed, lucic had only one UFA year more so the same thing applies here as it did with couture.

kopitar had 4 RFA years, 3 UFA years.

eberle 4 RFA years, 2 UFA years. same with saad.

benn had 4 RFA years, 1 UFA year.

as for those guys you mentioned., hall had 4 RFA years, 3 UFA years. same with RNH. and landeskog.

duchene had extra UFA year but was also compensated by much more.

seguin had 4 RFA years, 2 UFA years. same with tavares. and kane. tarasenko had 4 RFA years, 4 UFA years.

ROR is all RFA. stamkos had 1 UFA year, 4 RFA.

most guys had more or the same ratio of RFA to UFA years than nyquist.

Not as an NHL player, no it didn't. It'd be like counting Jensen's deal as his second RFA contract. If you aren't an NHL player yet we're talking apples and oranges in the contract department.

he had been NHL player in the playoffs and late in the season. jensen hasn't played NHL game yet.

and nyquist also got smaller deal than those other players, because he hasn't achieved as much. basically only somewhat comparable contract in the league who is getting less money than nyquist while being better player is pacioretty and that deal is a steal compared to almost any deal in the league.

Which is why we're talking about RFA forwards. You're trying to hide behind distinctions and exceptions that don't exist in an honest comparison at a position.

you didn't mention it there.

If you're easily getting paid in the top 20 of RFA forwards, unless you're trying to say there are only 100 RFA forwards in the NHL he's rather higher up the chain than "top 20% or so". More like top 5-10%.

it was a wild guess and it was 100 RFA forwards who also have UFA years in his contract like nyquist has.
 
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Frk It

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Stepan signed for $6.5 million x 6 years. Nyquist's contract looking like a steal ;)
 

SpookyTsuki

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Stepan signed for $6.5 million x 6 years. Nyquist's contract looking like a steal ;)

inb4 Nyquists chokes in the playoffs but asks for 7mil due to his regular season contributions

Im kidding of course, But theres probably some truth in that
 

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