Nylander OR Ehlers

[Dache]

No problem, I'm sure you can be better next time. I believe in you buddy.

I’ll do my best. Maybe more arrogance is the answer since it seems to be the key to your heart.

 

[DannyGallivan]

On most of the teams in the NHL, Ehlers would be the best player. He's better than the overrated Laine as well (who should also be in this poll just to make it interesting).

 

[TS Quint]

You do understand that Kapanen was shooting at a 30% clip during those 28 games with Matthews right? And Nylander despite missing training camp, preseason, and 28 regular season games outproduced Kapanen from January - April 2019. Nylander was playing at a 65 point pace after his first 19 games of his 2018-19 season.

If Kapanen was good enough, he’d still be a Leaf.

He wasn’t good enough to be a Leaf? Is he good enough now? Seems like a pretty subjective opinion. Do you have anything to back that up?

 

[Namikaze Minato]

I’ll do my best. Maybe more arrogance is the answer since it seems to be the key to your heart.

The key to my heart these days is sick f***in snipes and dirty dirty dangles.

 

[TS Quint]

You do understand that Kapanen was shooting at a 30% clip during those 28 games with Matthews right? And Nylander despite missing training camp, preseason, and 28 regular season games outproduced Kapanen from January - April 2019. Nylander was playing at a 65 point pace after his first 19 games of his 2018-19 season.

If Kapanen was good enough, he’d still be a Leaf.

He was not shooting 30% either.

 

[DashingDane]

No one in the league plays less and produces more pts than Ehlers.

He is elite at 5v5. Since the start of the 19/20 season he is 6th overall in 5v5 production. Scary to think what he could do with pp1 and and more opportunity on 3v3 & 4v4.

 

[kylbaz]

Hard cringe for anyone that would say it's even close at this point.

 

[Atoyot]

Hard cringe for anyone that would say it's even close at this point.

Hard cringe for anyone who says hard cringe.

 

[winnipegger]

Ehlers is dynomite and Nylander is a firecracker.

 

[kylbaz]

Hard cringe for anyone who says hard cringe.

Killer post bro!

 

[Atoyot]

Killer post bro!

Thanks dood!

 

[SillyRabbit]

Man I come in here and I see Leaf fans and Jets fans arguing about which of their star players is better.

And as a Canucks fan, I just have to say that both sides should take a moment and appreciate that they don’t have Jim Benning as a GM, because he could’ve had either of them and he chose Jake Virtanen instead.

So to answer this poll, I don’t care who is better, they are both stars and both significantly better than Virtanen. I wish we had either one of them to play with Pettersson and Boeser.

 

[Cleatus]

Since Laine's departure, Ehlers has taken his game to new heights. Nylander is a pretty damn good player (I voted for him in all seasons before this one), but I really believe the tables have turned now.

 

[Atoyot]

Man I come in here and I see Leaf fans and Jets fans arguing about which of their star players is better.

And as a Canucks fan, I just have to say that both sides should take a moment and appreciate that they don’t have Jim Benning as a GM, because he could’ve had either of them and he chose Jake Virtanen instead.

So to answer this poll, I don’t care who is better, they are both stars and both significantly better than Virtanen. I wish we had either one of them to play with Pettersson and Boeser.

As a Jets fan, when you guys took Virtanen and Carolina took Fleury my mind was blown that we were going to get either Ehlers or Nylander. Didn't care which, I had them ranked the same at the time and really didn't think there was a chance of them getting to us. At least Benning seems to have learned his lesson though, he's been drafting much better since then.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Man I come in here and I see Leaf fans and Jets fans arguing about which of their star players is better.

And as a Canucks fan, I just have to say that both sides should take a moment and appreciate that they don’t have Jim Benning as a GM, because he could’ve had either of them and he chose Jake Virtanen instead.

So to answer this poll, I don’t care who is better, they are both stars and both significantly better than Virtanen. I wish we had either one of them to play with Pettersson and Boeser.

Never understood that pick. Virtanen has the hockey IQ of a rock. Even if he has the "physical tools", his brain won't ever let him reach top line status.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

On most of the teams in the NHL, Ehlers would be the best player. He's better than the overrated Laine as well (who should also be in this poll just to make it interesting).

That's a stretch:

In the Central:

TB: No (Kucherov, Stamkos, Point)
Car: No (Aho)
FLA: No (Barkov, Huberdeau)
CHI: No (Kane)
NSH: Yes
CLB: Yes
DET: Debatable (Larkin)

North:
TOR: No
WPG: Is he better than Scheifle?
EDM: No
VAN: Debatable (Pettersson)
CGY: Debatable (Lindholm/Gaudreau)
MTL: Yes
OTT: Yes

East:
WSH: No
NYI: No (Barzal)
PIT: No (Crosby)
BOS: No (Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak)
PHI: Debateable (Couturier)
NYR: No (Panarin)
NJ: Yes
Buff: NO (Eichel)

Col: No
Vegas: No (Stone)
Min: Yes
STL: Yes (ROR is close)
PHX: Yes
LAK: Yes (although Kopitar is still really good)
SJS: Yes
ANA: Yes

 

[Regal]

That's a stretch:

In the Central:

TB: No (Kucherov, Stamkos, Point)
Car: No (Aho)
FLA: No (Barkov, Huberdeau)
CHI: No (Kane)
NSH: Yes
CLB: Yes
DET: Debatable (Larkin)

North:
TOR: No
WPG: Is he better than Scheifle?
EDM: No
VAN: Debatable (Pettersson)
CGY: Debatable (Lindholm/Gaudreau)
MTL: Yes
OTT: Yes

East:
WSH: No
NYI: No (Barzal)
PIT: No (Crosby)
BOS: No (Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak)
PHI: Debateable (Couturier)
NYR: No (Panarin)
NJ: Yes
Buff: NO (Eichel)

Col: No
Vegas: No (Stone)
Min: Yes
STL: Yes (ROR is close)
PHX: Yes
LAK: Yes (although Kopitar is still really good)
SJS: Yes
ANA: Yes

I'd take Josi over him, and ROR as well.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I'd take Josi over him, and ROR as well.

Fair. I was focused on Forwards and giving the poster the benefit of the doubt.

 

[nowhereman]

Man I come in here and I see Leaf fans and Jets fans arguing about which of their star players is better.

And as a Canucks fan, I just have to say that both sides should take a moment and appreciate that they don’t have Jim Benning as a GM, because he could’ve had either of them and he chose Jake Virtanen instead.

So to answer this poll, I don’t care who is better, they are both stars and both significantly better than Virtanen. I wish we had either one of them to play with Pettersson and Boeser.

Bobby Mac had both behind Virtanen in draft rankings. Nice to see you trying to place the blame at Jim's feet, though.

 

[canuckking1]

Bobby Mac had both behind Virtanen in draft rankings. Nice to see you trying to place the blame at Jim's feet, though.

So a draft guide absolves Benning of blame on a pick he made?

 

[nowhereman]

So a draft guide absolves Benning of blame on a pick he made?

Hold on... so, if Benning gets all the blame for the Virtanen pick, shouldn't he get all the credit for the Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, Hoglander, Demko, Gaudette, etc picks? Or are we just picking the narratives that suit us?

To answer your question, no. But claiming that the reason the Canucks picked Virtanen is because Benning is a horrible GM is just the usual typical disingenuous HFCanucks crap.

 

[canuckking1]

Hold on... so, if Benning gets all the blame for the Virtanen pick, shouldn't he get all the credit for the Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, Hoglander, Demko, Gaudette, etc picks? Or are we just picking the narratives that suit us?

To answer your question, no. But claiming that the reason the Canucks picked Virtanen is because Benning is a horrible GM is just the usual typical disingenuous HFCanucks crap.

When did I do that?

Benning is a bad GM because of his Free agency contract not cause of his drafting. I don't wanna turn an Ehlers/Nylander into a Benning thread so I'll leave it at that.