Speculation: Nylander contract talk (All Nylander talk here)

[Cotton]

I scoff at Dregs as much as the next guy, but is it so hard to believe a player's camp went into negotiations at 8, hoping for 7 and expecting 6? That's how these things go.

Its routine negotiating, people just love possible drama.

 

[Cor]

I’m not sure why people took Dreger’s report so seriously. He said “non-Leaf related” people “have said” that Nylander “could be” asking for 8M.

Even Friedman today. Says nobody from the Leafs are talking. Nobody from Nylander camp are talking. Then follows that up by saying that they are very far apart. Well if no one relevant to the sitaution is talking, why are you saying they are far apart.

James Mirtle and Chris Johnston, two best Leaf reporters in terms of inside info, both said they expect Nylander to be signed by the pre-season and have both said they expect it to be in the 6.5 range at 6-7-8 years

 

[Confucius]

I scoff at Dregs as much as the next guy, but is it so hard to believe a player's camp went into negotiations at 8, hoping for 7 and expecting 6? That's how these things go.

that would be as silly as the Leafs offering 4 hoping for 5 and settling on 6. There are lowballers in this world but they are never taken seriously just like there are people who want the moon and are never taken seriously. Most negotiations are pretty close.

 

[IPS]

Dregers just covering all the numbers, no way he can be wrong now.

Somewhere between 6 and 8.

Thanks Dregs.

Dregs is just so much more entertaining when he injects that shock value into his pieces.

 

[NoName]

$6-6.5 million over 6 years is a solid contract for the Leafs. Anything under $7 million is fair market value for Nylander.

 

[Whileee]

$6-6.5 million over 6 years is a solid contract for the Leafs. Anything under $7 million is fair market value for Nylander.

6.9m x 6 years would be a substantial overpay.

 

[Erndog]

6.9m x 6 years would be a substantial overpay.

Substantial?

Hyperbolic much?

 

[Advanced stats]

6.9m x 6 years would be a substantial overpay.

For a year or 2 maybe..
In years 3, 4, 5, and 6 it would likely turn into a steal.

 

[Whileee]

Substantial?

Hyperbolic much?

Sure... About 600-700k a year too much.

 

[Jets]

He’s done nothing to suggest he should get more than Ehlers so anything more than Ehlers is too much.

 

[Maple Leaf]

nylander is a peripheral player
no worries

 

[Randy Randerson]

He’s done nothing to suggest he should get more than Ehlers so anything more than Ehlers is too much.

the only difference is that the 18/19 salary cap number wasn't known when Ehlers signed and it is when Nylander will, so there's an argument for some inflation, but otherwise I agree that Ehlers is by far the best comparable

 

[Claypool]

He’s done nothing to suggest he should get more than Ehlers so anything more than Ehlers is too much.

Marner and Matthews are his comparables. He likely doesn't want to sign for $6 if Marner gets $7+ and Matthews gets $12+ next offseason.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Sure... About 600-700k a year too much.

So...not even a replacement level player?

 

[bukwas]

Marner and Matthews are his comparables. He likely doesn't want to sign for $6 if Marner gets $7+ and Matthews gets $12+ next offseason.

Nobody would approach contract negotiations like that. I can't even imagine how that conversation would go.
I want more because hypothetically a comparable player might get more in the future?
They'd tell him to go sober up and come back when he can think rationally.

 

[7even]

Dregers just covering all the numbers, no way he can be wrong now.

Somewhere between 6 and 8.

Thanks Dregs.

Like me during my anatomy exam.

"Identify the pinned structure."

Appears to be human tissue. Checkmate.

 

[Morbo]

Sure... About 600-700k a year too much.

that's not "substantial"

 

[Man Bear Pig]

He’s done nothing to suggest he should get more than Ehlers so anything more than Ehlers is too much.

It's the best comparable for Nylander and the Ehlers contract is about what I'd expect.

 

[Leviathan]

Dreger has no insider information. Not suggesting that the numbers people are throwing around won't be accurate in the end just that Dreger is guessing just as much as anyone else is.

Dreger broke the Karlsson trade like 12 hours ago lol.

He also broke the Tavares signing.

He's literally broken two of the biggest stories of the year

 

[Menzinger]

Dreger broke the Karlsson trade like 12 hours ago lol.

He also broke the Tavares signing.

He's literally broken two of the biggest stories of the year

He’s already trying to walk back the 8 million claim though, claiming social media twisted his words

 

[slimbob8]

Dreger broke the Karlsson trade like 12 hours ago lol.

He also broke the Tavares signing.

He's literally broken two of the biggest stories of the year

Ya really. It’s hilarious when people bash guys like Dreger because “they have no insider connections”. The guy literally speaks to people in the business all day long so how they come to that conclusion is beyond me. Nobody on these forums has any idea who he’s actually connected to but he’s obviously got infinitely more connections than any of us do.

 

[sharks9]

If he's only asking for 6-6.5 now, how isn't this done yet? I'm sure Dubas would be thrilled to get him that cheap.

Unless Nylander only wants a 3-4 year deal at that price?

 

[Willy Stylez]

He’s done nothing to suggest he should get more than Ehlers so anything more than Ehlers is too much.

Really? Nothing? So Ehlers have been playing as a centerman?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

If he's only asking for 6-6.5 now, how isn't this done yet? I'm sure Dubas would be thrilled to get him that cheap.

Unless Nylander only wants a 3-4 year deal at that price?

Nylander has said he wants a long term deal. It really hard to say what is holding things up here.

 

[Go4soda]

Ya really. It’s hilarious when people bash guys like Dreger because “they have no insider connections”. The guy literally speaks to people in the business all day long so how they come to that conclusion is beyond me. Nobody on these forums has any idea who he’s actually connected to but he’s obviously got infinitely more connections than any of us do.

His knowledge of other teams seems to be there. Just unfortunately not in the case of the leafs. He hasn’t known anything on them in a long time now. I personally don’t get bent out of shape when an ‘insider’ doesn’t have any info to offer on something leafs related. If you have nothing to offer , that’s fine. But dreger Will come out like he has info and say absolutely nothing of substance. Total speculation based on no information. It’s annoying.