Player Discussion Nylander After the Contract

[Menzinger]

 

[TMLAM34]

Reading some of these comments makes you wonder why anyone would want to play in Toronto. You have a game breaker, 40 goal, 90+ point player who was underpaid on his previous contract who might only be overpaid for at most 2 years of his next contract who also gave the team full term (something us fans were constantly complaining about how we can’t get our star players on 8 year deals) and we just try and nitpick every little thing…

 

[ACC1224]

You are aware that he has 4 leafs behind him and that if he touches the puck the game is called back to a faceoff in the defensive zone, right? Cant believe the amount of hate arguably our best player throughout this season is getting from own "fans".

He didn't need to touch the puck just engage enough to disrupt things. Gliding to the bench like he did was terrible.

 

[TMLAM34]

I think a lot of us are wondering why he’s in Boston as well…

 

[ToneDog]

Sheldon and the Leafs are hilarious. I have no update on Nylander, I have no update on goaltending.. I have no update on the lineup. I have no update on what I had for breakfast.

Good thing is it is only a matter of time this guy gets fired.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

Sheldon and the Leafs are hilarious. I have no update on Nylander, I have no update on goaltending.. I have no update on the lineup. I have no update on what I had for breakfast.

Good thing is it is only a matter of time this guy gets fired.

I've heard all this talk somewhere before, I can't confirm or deny where

 

[ToneDog]

You ever get in trouble at work?

Boss sends you home? Hints your job may be in jeopardy? So the next time you go to work you bust your ass off because you know you're in the dog house?

That's what this sounds like to me.



It's called arriving at a conclusion based on the evidence presented before you.

If that's what projecting is then that's exactly what I'm doing. Because unless he misses tonight's game to injury too then absolutely I believe he got benched. And there is nothing anyone, including Keefe or Nylander themselves, could say to make me change my mind.

I'll stick to my guns on this one.



Because a) it was the last game of the season he gave up on the play resulting in the goal against; and b) benching him in the regular season at that point would have been rewarding him.

Edit: the fact that was the game winning goal might have had something to do with it too.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face is so Leafy and dumb. Game #83 is not the the time to bench him for floating. That should have been done every time he did it in the season.

Then again it is possible that Tre and Shanny are butt hurt after being swindled by Nylander for $92m. That my friends is on them. Many of us said he was not worth much more than $9m.

 

[Menzinger]

Reading some of these comments makes you wonder why anyone would want to play in Toronto. You have a game breaker, 40 goal, 90+ point player who was underpaid on his previous contract who might only be overpaid for at most 2 years of his next contract who also gave the team full term (something us fans were constantly complaining about how we can’t get our star players on 8 year deals) and we just try and nitpick every little thing…

I find the reaction to the injury to be particularly odd. Folks are just making up things in their heads and getting mad at those hypotheticals.

Admittedly the team hasn't done anyone favors by keeping things so secretive, though I suppose they wouldn't be the first team to not want to publicly disclose details of a players health in the postseason

 

[ToneDog]

I find the reaction to the injury to be particularly odd. Folks are just making up things in their heads and getting mad at those hypotheticals.

Admittedly the team hasn't done anyone favors by keeping things so secretive, though I suppose they wouldn't be the first team to not want to publicly disclose details of a players health in the postseason

The secrecy kind of smells like the Perry saga. Hawks fumbled that and Leafs are fumbling this IMO.

 

[TMLAM34]

I find the reaction to the injury to be particularly odd. Folks are just making up things in their heads and getting mad at those hypotheticals.

Admittedly the team hasn't done anyone favors by keeping things so secretive, though I suppose they wouldn't be the first team to not want to publicly disclose details of a players health in the postseason

If the team comes out to the media and says Nylander is nursing a hand injury, what do you think Boston out of all teams are going to do? Obviously target Nylander’s hands.

Fans just need to find something to complain about. Lol

 

[rumman]

Cutting off your nose to spite your face is so Leafy and dumb. Game #83 is not the the time to bench him for floating. That should have been done every time he did it in the season.

Then again it is possible that Tre and Shanny are butt hurt after being swindled by Nylander for $92m. That my friends is on them. Many of us said he was not worth much more than $9m.

I still cannot understand why they signed him when they did, if they were going to offer money that no other team would be stupid enough to match why not let him keep killing it for said overpayment? Toronto has the stupidest ownership/management in the NHL bar none……..

 

[ToneDog]

If the team comes out to the media and says Nylander is nursing a hand injury, what do you think Boston out of all teams are going to do? Obviously target Nylander’s hands.

Fans just need to find something to complain about. Lol

Have they said whether it is an upper or lower body injury or have then chosen not to comment? When you refuse to say upper or lower, you open the door for speculation. I heard he slept with Mitch's wife and Matty's mom. LOL.

 

[rumman]

Have they said whether it is an upper or lower body injury or have then chosen not to comment? When you refuse to say upper or lower, you open the door for speculation. I heard he slept with Mitch's wife and Matty's mom. LOL.

Too funny, but this is what happens when you don’t communicate with the media, you get Perry like conspiracy theories…….

 

[HellasLEAF]

Sheldon and the Leafs are hilarious. I have no update on Nylander, I have no update on goaltending.. I have no update on the lineup. I have no update on what I had for breakfast.

Good thing is it is only a matter of time this guy gets fired.

What update do you want the coach to give the press exactly.

He doesn't have to tell them anything. In fact he shouldn't.

And I will say in Keefe's defense, he patiently answers every question this hockey mad market throws at him all season. Go look at his interviews. No coach has as long an interview, or as frequent in the entire league as Keefe.

 

[Budz22]

He didn't need to touch the puck just engage enough to disrupt things. Gliding to the bench like he did was terrible.

There he is.

 

[Menzinger]

If the team comes out to the media and says Nylander is nursing a hand injury, what do you think Boston out of all teams are going to do? Obviously target Nylander’s hands.

Fans just need to find something to complain about.

Yep. Like I get frustration with the situation from a fans pov but there's practical reasons not to disclose if the guys knees or ankle or hand is banged up. What do folks think Marchand would do with that info lol

 

[Gabriel426]

The only reason why he is not playing is bc he is injured and why would they disclose his injury or anyone injury status? This is the playoffs, you don’t want to leak anything.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Because a) it was the last game of the season he gave up on the play resulting in the goal against; and b) benching him in the regular season at that point would have been rewarding him.

Edit: the fact that was the game winning goal might have had something to do with it too.

a) no idea why you are responding to my post with this - totally unrelated to anything in my post.

b) benching anyone who is trying for a milestone is not a reward - that's a silly comment.

No idea if the "Edit" is supposed to be in response to my post - it doesn't seem to be.

 

[notDatsyuk]

If the team comes out to the media and says Nylander is nursing a hand injury, what do you think Boston out of all teams are going to do? Obviously target Nylander’s hands.

Fans just need to find something to complain about. Lol

The funny thing is that they also complain that he seems to be the only one of the top four who never gets criticized.

(Of course the same or other posters gripe about every little mistake the other three make, along with the complaint that they never get criticized.)

Some people aren't happy unless they are miserable.

 

[ruaware41]

The funny thing is that they also complain that he seems to be the only one of the top four who never gets criticized.

(Of course the same or other posters gripe about every little mistake the other three make, along with the complaint that they never get criticized.)

Some people aren't happy unless they are miserable.

do you have any evidence of this? I think it's pretty obvious to most Nylander gets criticized either equally if not more relative to his performance compared to the rest of the top 4. I haven't seen people say Nylander escapes criticism more than the rest of them. If anything, Tavares escapes criticism relative to his play the most.

 

[notDatsyuk]

do you have any evidence of this? I think it's pretty obvious to most Nylander gets criticized either equally if not more relative to his performance compared to the rest of the top 4. I haven't seen people say Nylander escapes criticism more than the rest of them. If anything, Tavares escapes criticism relative to his play the most.

I think he gets criticized more than the other three, and often with no justification (as with the others), but there are certainly a few posters who say that.

Just from my observation, Matty gets (justifiably) less criticism, and JT also gets less, although I don't know why.

 

[ruaware41]

I think he gets criticized more than the other three, and often with no justification (as with the others), but there are certainly a few posters who say that.

Just from my observation, Matty gets (justifiably) less criticism, and JT also gets less, although I don't know why.

among all the criticism I've seen against Nylander, both what seems reasonable and what seems ridiculous I've never seen anyone say he doesn't get enough criticism compared to the other 3. I imagine if there are a few posters who say that it's very few and far between

 

[81Leafs50]

He sure does. As the second best player on the team, it is expected.

Mitch Marner non-existent in 2 playoff games so far. But guess what, Matthews just had his best playoff game with a goal and two assists and the game winner. All with Mitch on the bench.

Domi makes a play on Matthews game winner. Bertuzzi scores, gets called back. Tavares scores. Where is Mitch and what is he doing other than NOT covering Pasta in the slot and allowing a cross-crease pass on the Bruins PP goal in the 1st. sucks defensively and offensively.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I do wonder what injury he has or sickness to miss 2 games

 

[Notsince67]

Mitch Marner non-existent in 2 playoff games so far. But guess what, Matthews just had his best playoff game with a goal and two assists and the game winner. All with Mitch on the bench.

Domi makes a play on Matthews game winner. Bertuzzi scores, gets called back. Tavares scores. Where is Mitch and what is he doing other than NOT covering Pasta in the slot and allowing a cross-crease pass on the Bruins PP goal in the 1st. sucks defensively and offensively.

Leafs won. Marner wasnt great. For some, the second one is the greater cause for celebration.